2016 Postmortem
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Was there ever a doubt. Really? Russian hackers hacked ONLY the DNC servers.Trump has Russian mafia ties. Trump is BFF with Putin. Dots are pretty close together there. Does not require great deductive skills...
If there is outrage to be had, it should really be directed at the ties between trump and russia. This is a direct threat to our country. Foreign entities are trying to manipulate our elections.
Clinton campaign manager: Russians leaked Democrats emails to help Donald Trump http://a.msn.com/r/2/BBuKAc1?m=en-us&a=1
More fun stuff :
RESEARCHERS: Yes, Russia really did hack the Democratic National Committee
http://www.businessinsider.com/security-researchers-russian-spies-hacked-dnc-guccifer-2-possible-disinformation-campaign-2016-6
Russian government hackers steal DNC files on Donald Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/14/russian-dnc-hack-donald-trump-files-us-election
Democratic National Committee Breached by Russian Hackers
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democratic-national-committee-breached-russian-hackers-n592061
Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)and obvious!! Ain't it!
This is a developing story, & am not thinking you're an expert on any of it!
RonniePudding
(889 posts)What a dumb response the poster had. Just pitiful.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)All this attention on DWS and not on the Russian tie is baffling.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)But claiming it was Russians serves to discredit the content.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html
China also hacked into the U.S. And when we call them on it. And guess what? They also deny it. Oh my heavens, I am just so shocked to pieces.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/19/china-hacking-us-companies-for-secrets-despite-cyber-pact-.html
C'mon, man. Let's give deductive reasoning a chance is all I am saying...
woolldog
(8,791 posts)instead of the content of the email. Russia injecting themselves into the GE is shocking.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)We should be BETTER than flinging these silly theories around.
Russians?
WHERE IS THE INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION FROM A GOVERNMENT SPOKESPERSON?
Is this a fucking joke? We're going to allow a campaign to reignite the cold war with Russia, without even hearing from the FBI or POTUS first?
I call bullshit unless and until someone from FBI or Homeland Security holds a press conference.
Probably was some DNC employee. 90% of data breaches and thefts are committed by employees.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)The news that some here don't want to acknowledge.
Democratic National Committee Breached by Russian Hackers
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democratic-national-committee-breached-russian-hackers-n592061
Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Saying that it is Russia.
RESEARCHERS: Yes, Russia really did hack the Democratic National Committee
http://www.businessinsider.com/security-researchers-russian-spies-hacked-dnc-guccifer-2-possible-disinformation-campaign-2016-6
Russian government hackers steal DNC files on Donald Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/14/russian-dnc-hack-donald-trump-files-us-election
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)tralala
(239 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)the source somehow altered or faked them. That does not appear to be the case in this instance though....the emails are real, they happened, there was collusion. Those are the facts that need to be discussed, not using the source as a diversion from discussion of the facts.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And many innocuous things ending described ny ignorant folks as crimes.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)It gives context and intention. We have 2 issues going on. One is the emails themselves and the other is that russians hacked into the DNC servers. The issue of the emails prove that DWS has what? Bias? Don't we all? The burning question there is not whether she has personal bias, but whether she acted inappropriately in the capacity of the DNC chair on that bias.
But in the overall scheme of things, she is NOT that all powerful. The primaries went decisively to Hillary and it sure as hell wasn't because of DWS. It just sure looks to me like she is being scapegoated for anger on different fronts. And coinkydinkily, it happens the day after Kaine is named VP.
The more burning question should be why the Russians are involving themselves into our primaries? I find this far more disturbing. So, to focus on just the emails to me is like trying to address a disease by its symptoms and not its cause.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Russian intelligence helping Donald Trump by sowing discord amongst democrats isn't something that should be discussed.
Go on with your petty primary hurting.