New questions surround Putin’s interest in Trump’s election

[Native]

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/new-questions-surround-putins-interest-trumps-election

* The New York Times reports today, “[R]esearchers have concluded that the national committee was breached by two Russian intelligence agencies, which were the same attackers behind previous Russian cyberoperations at the White House, the State Department and the Joint Chiefs of Staff last year. And metadata from the released emails suggests that the documents passed through Russian computers….. Whether the thefts were ordered by Mr. Putin, or just carried out by apparatchiks who thought they might please him, is anyone’s guess.”

* The Washington Post reported overnight, “In the past 24 hours, cybersecurity experts have said that the email cache released by WikiLeaks on Friday appears to have been given to the anti-secrecy group by Russian intelligence.”

* The Washington Post also reported the other day that the Trump campaign, which generally took no interest in the Republican Party’s official platform, took special care to add language about U.S. policy towards Ukraine – a new position that contradicts GOP foreign-policy orthodoxy – that brings the platform in line with the policies of the Russian government.

* Noting Trump’s anti-NATO posture – another break with decades of Republican thought on foreign policy – The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg, a center-right observer, noted last week, “Trump is making it clear that, as president, he would allow Russia to advance its hegemonic interests across Europe and the Middle East.”

* TPM’s Josh Marshall had a lengthy piece over the weekend, highlighting Trump’s financial ties to Russia.

[tonyt53]

1. While some people want to dwell on the anti-Sanders emails, they are missing the much bigger picture

A Trump president would work with Putin to start another cold war with Russian moving across eastern Europe again. Who benefits? The same people that Trump wants to help "build" our military back up - the military contractors and suppliers. The military-industrial complex that Dwight Eisenhower warned against.

[uponit7771]

3. +1, seems like flooding the conversation about non-issue emails vs tRumps Pooty Poot connection

...is the flavor of the day

[Native]

5. And Trump's loans would be forgiven - a win-win!

[Cracklin Charlie]

16. It's distraction, plain and simple.

Don't fall for it.

From the looks of it, some major media is not being fooled. I'm really shocked that there is ANY reporting on Trump's foreign connections. August could be really hot this election year!

[kstewart33]

2. This is unbelievable.

DWS and the DNC? Completely irrelevant compared to Putin's efforts to get Trump elected. This story should be front and center in the US media. But of course, not.

The Putin-Trump link is a most terrifying development. I can't imagine a US president with financial ties to Russia and possibly Russian mobsters.

What the heck world are we living in?

[uponit7771]

4. +1

[Native]

8. It's gaining traction...

[tallahasseedem]

19. I don't know...

but it's scary as shit.

[sarae]

6. Really damning stuff...

this one, in particular, seems like a huge red flag:

* The Washington Post also reported the other day that the Trump campaign, which generally took no interest in the Republican Party’s official platform, took special care to add language about U.S. policy towards Ukraine – a new position that contradicts GOP foreign-policy orthodoxy – that brings the platform in line with the policies of the Russian government.

Trump didn't care about any platform issues, except to make sure a pro-Russia policy was included?

[tallahasseedem]

21. Take that and then look at Manafort...

it makes it even scarier.

[Cha]

7. Good! Keep hammering away, M$M, Social Media, Internet.. this better not go away.

* The Washington Post reported overnight, “In the past 24 hours, cybersecurity experts have said that the email cache released by WikiLeaks on Friday appears to have been given to the anti-secrecy group by Russian intelligence.”

And, wikilieaks is warning Joy Reid.. wikileaks for cripe sake!

Joy Reid
✔ ?@JoyAnnReid
Tomorrow on #AMJoy we'll explore the unprecedented affinity between an American presidential candidate - Trump - Russia and Wilileaks.

WikiLeaks
✔ ?@wikileaks
@JoyAnnReid You are pushing a discredited conspiracy theory. There is no affinity, whatsoever. Our lawyers will monitor your program.
7:57 PM - 23 Jul 2016
1,569 1,569 Retweets 2,609 2,609 likes

Kim Ghattas
✔ ?@BBCKimGhattas
Wow. Wiki leaks is now into intimidating journalists @JoyAnnReid https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/757092238400913408 …
3:09 AM - 24 Jul 2016
580 580 Retweets 442 442 likes

Joy Reid ?@JoyAnnReid · 4h4 hours ago
This isn't getting as much attention, but Russian meddling in the U.S. election IS the biggest bombshell out there.
https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/07/24/president-obama-on-face-the-nation/

Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump

The DNC said that no financial, donor or personal information appears to have been accessed or taken, suggesting that the breach was traditional espionage, not the work of criminal hackers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html

Ronald Brownstein
?@RonBrownstein
More @SangerNYT "metadata from the released emails suggests that the documents passed through Russian computers"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-emails.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

It's Official: Hillary Clinton Is Running Against Vladimir Putin

Fulfilling what might be the Russian autocrat’s dearest wish, Trump has openly questioned whether the U.S. should keep its commitments to NATO.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/clinton-trump-putin-nato/492332/

Loki~http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2288850

While Sen Tim Kaine's son is being deployed this week to go help NATO.

Mahalo Native!

[Native]

11. Thanks for the links Cha! Can't believe this isn't all over DU.

[Cha]

12. We're trying.. there are a lot of posts on this.. This is Rachel's tweet @wikileaks..

Rachel Maddow MSNBC Verified account 
?@maddow
Rachel Maddow MSNBC Retweeted WikiLeaks
"our lawyers will monitor your program"? seriously? and will you lurk in the alley, too?

[Native]

13. I saw this earlier, and I love that they're keeping a sense of humor about this!

Have you seen anything more about the prevalence of social media trolls backed by Russian entities? I'm noticing a huge uptick in the amount and speed with which positive posts re Hill are attacked by trolls.

[Cha]

14. No, I've haven't seen anything..

I don't tweet myself.. just repost tweets I see on The Obama Diary.

That's too bad.. expected, of course.. but, Hillary's going to beat them all!

All the guys trying to take her down.. not. gonna. happen.

[Native]

15. Seen this? "Why Some Leftists Are Defending Donald Trump’s Ties to Russia" UGH

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/why-some-leftists-defend-trumps-ties-to-russia.html

[Native]

9. Another excellent point...

* While some have suggested that these questions lend credence to conspiracy theories, the Washington Post’s Anne Applebaum raised an important point: conspiracy theories tend to focus on allegations of secret misconduct; many of Trump’s ties to Putin are already out in the open.

Here's the link to Applebaum's piece https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-a-trump-presidency-could-destabilize-europe/2016/07/21/9ec38a20-4f75-11e6-a422-83ab49ed5e6a_story.html

[RonniePudding]

10. The deniers are out in full force

"Putin doesn't care about this election" one wrote in another thread.

Uh huh....

[Cracklin Charlie]

17. Fasten your seat belts...

It's going to be a bumpy election!

Clinton/Kaine 2016!

[greymattermom]

23. Well Russia cares about their investment

in the Trump brand, even if they don't care about the election. Trump is jealous of Putin, I think.

[awoke_in_2003]

24. I saw someone saying this couldn't happen

were it not for DWS.

[RonniePudding]

27. The emails are only one side of the story

The more interesting stuff is found in Trump's business dealings with Russian mob figures loyal to Putin, that he has some very shady advisors in his employ with direct connections to Putin and he all of the sudden wants to pillory NATO which has been valued by GOP and Dem president's alike for decades. His railing on the Chinese is also now in question.theres a lot that stinks here beyond emails.

But yes some are too myopic to understand what is at stake here.

[Blue Idaho]

18. I smell a rat...

And he's wearing a sable fur hat...

[alfredo]

20. Big headlines on CNN.com

[Native]

22. Finally. Wish I were home and could see if anything is being said on TV.

[alfredo]

28. I hope the big three mention it.

[bucolic_frolic]

25. #trumpstaxesmatter

WHO does he owe money to? WHY is he trying to get elected?

Grab America's resources to pay off corporate debt?

WHO is in on it? Didn't Ryan jump on board quickly?

[Politicub]

26. Conservatives get hard at the sound of Putin's name

He's a real turn-on for the free republic crowd. So this works in Trump's favor.

[alfredo]

29. Remember Irving Kristol was a Trotskyite.