Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:23 PM

RBInMaine (13,570 posts)

ANYONE who says he/she would vote for Trump to stop Hillary is nothing but a fucking NUT.

No reality anywhere near his/her brain. NOT progressive. NOT a Democrat. And NOT sane!

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ANYONE who says he/she would vote for Trump to stop Hillary is nothing but a fucking NUT. (Original post)	RBInMaine	Jul 2016	OP
I will go so far as to say they are Un-American	liberal N proud	Jul 2016	#1
Agreed But I Don't Think These People Really Exist	billhicks76	Jul 2016	#23
Oh, they exist. Hostility is the primary driving force	Hortensis	Jul 2016	#39
But Not Democrats	billhicks76	Jul 2016	#40
The Democratic Party still has sizable	Hortensis	Jul 2016	#41
And what about the - was it 3 or 4 - Sanders delegates MSNBC found last night?	baldguy	Jul 2016	#42
a nutjob	DemonGoddess	Jul 2016	#2
Sadly, we have people in our country ready to surrender to fascism	RonniePudding	Jul 2016	#3
my fear as well. . .	MBS	Jul 2016	#38
That pretty much says it all.	redstatebluegirl	Jul 2016	#4
would say that pretty much covers it	niyad	Jul 2016	#5
I totally agree, and I supported Bernie enthusiastically in the primary.	kestrel91316	Jul 2016	#6
Maybe they will be balanced out by	virgogal	Jul 2016	#7
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jul 2016	#8
Nailed it.	JaneyVee	Jul 2016	#9
I know these types. They are fed up with trying to get through the thick skulls of Americans...	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2016	#10
Yep, they are a fucking nut Don the Con supporter seeking a messiah. nt	63splitwindow	Jul 2016	#11
They are ill informed...three words	yuiyoshida	Jul 2016	#12
"SUPREME COURT PICKS"	keithbvadu2	Jul 2016	#17
Indeed.	yuiyoshida	Jul 2016	#19
More like very poorly educated	PatSeg	Jul 2016	#13
I donated to the other guy, supported the other guy, and voted for the other guy in primary...	Moostache	Jul 2016	#14
The same single minded attitude of the tea party types.	keithbvadu2	Jul 2016	#15
How does the name-calling help?	FairWinds	Jul 2016	#16
"he/she would vote for Trump to stop Hillary" from OP. Seems pretty clear.	fleabiscuit	Jul 2016	#20
Anybody who would vote for Trump is no Democrat.	DLevine	Jul 2016	#21
Sometimes, venting against the absurd is not in fact, designed to persuade but to simply vent	LanternWaste	Jul 2016	#30
What does party unity have to do with fucking nuts Don the Con voters? nt	63splitwindow	Jul 2016	#31
We have people here who will do that.	redstatebluegirl	Jul 2016	#18
I agree	ismnotwasm	Jul 2016	#22
K&R!	stonecutter357	Jul 2016	#24
MSNBC's Jacob Soboroff interviewed one such protestor earlier today.	4lbs	Jul 2016	#25
Yep, that is someone who would have been right at home at the RNC	kcr	Jul 2016	#37
This is where I'm at.	Stryst	Jul 2016	#26
+1	PoliticalMalcontent	Jul 2016	#27
totally agree. nt	retrowire	Jul 2016	#28
95k florida nader voters put that dipshit shrub in the WH	War Pigs	Jul 2016	#29
At this point in time..	LW1977	Jul 2016	#32
Bunch of evil, scary posts on this over at that other site.	Ineeda	Jul 2016	#33
As ugly as this all is	skepticscott	Jul 2016	#34
Unfortunately, there are a lot of ignorant uneducated nuts.	raven mad	Jul 2016	#35
Deluded by free-floating fear and hate...	VOX	Jul 2016	#36
I can agree with that	OnionPatch	Jul 2016	#43

Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:24 PM

liberal N proud (59,156 posts)

1. I will go so far as to say they are Un-American

And they don't love their country.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:17 PM

billhicks76 (5,082 posts)

23. Agreed But I Don't Think These People Really Exist

I've never met one. Whoever is baiting online is questionable.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 06:17 AM

Hortensis (51,779 posts)

39. Oh, they exist. Hostility is the primary driving force

for many millions. Pretty sure there're plenty in there who hate Hillary enough to do almost anything they could get away with. And the ones who come to a Democrats' forum to trumpet insults should be believed.

If only they were insane. We could disenfranchise them all.

Btw, Pew just reported that 90% of those who consistently supported Bernie now support Hillary. I didn't check Pew's definition, but this presumably knocks out a bunch of the hostiles, both conservatives from in and mostly outside the party, who voted for Bernie out of spite against the party and/or her but will vote Trump or not at all in the GE.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #39)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 06:19 AM

billhicks76 (5,082 posts)

40. But Not Democrats

And DU is too small for the average republican to know about. Military contractors, NGOs and corporations who spout republican ideals do though.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #40)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 06:31 AM

Hortensis (51,779 posts)

41. The Democratic Party still has sizable

conservative blocs. We have conservative Democrats on DU, some white some other. The big sifting out of right and left by party is mostly complete but not entirely among whites and hasn't really begun among minorities who don't have a conservative party to join.

That last is huge, btw, but seldom considered. Minority races, dethnicities and religions have just as many conservatives -- and sometimes more -- than the white population does. But the Republican Party is inimical to their interests, so some join the Democratic Party as their only practical choice because some liberalism works for them even as most probably makes them want to tear their hair.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 07:34 AM

baldguy (36,649 posts)

42. And what about the - was it 3 or 4 - Sanders delegates MSNBC found last night?

"I'm going to vote for Jill Stein."

"Hillary needs to convince me."

"Why did we have to wait all night listening to this Clinton love-fest? Why did they have to leave Bernie to be the last speaker?"

These people exist. And these people are fools & assholes. If they're not going to support the Democratic nominee for President, they have no business being delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:25 PM

DemonGoddess (4,640 posts)

2. a nutjob

unamerican, and needs to grow the fuck UP. SEE what it is they're actually pledging to vote FOR.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:26 PM

RonniePudding (889 posts)

3. Sadly, we have people in our country ready to surrender to fascism

Our culture has become increasingly anti-intellectual and a lot of people have been conditioned to blame others (immigrants, brown people, and in some cases, big business/capitalism) for their own problems.

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Response to RonniePudding (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 06:09 AM

MBS (9,688 posts)

38. my fear as well. . .

BTW, I love your Trump-Putin campaign sign.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:28 PM

redstatebluegirl (11,908 posts)

4. That pretty much says it all.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:29 PM

niyad (87,109 posts)

5. would say that pretty much covers it

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:32 PM

kestrel91316 (51,666 posts)

6. I totally agree, and I supported Bernie enthusiastically in the primary.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:46 PM

virgogal (10,178 posts)

7. Maybe they will be balanced out by

the Repubs who vote for Hillary to stop Trump.

What a year !!!!!!!!

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Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:18 PM

JaneyVee (19,877 posts)

9. Nailed it.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:21 PM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

10. I know these types. They are fed up with trying to get through the thick skulls of Americans...

We have a population mindlessly sitting in their cars listening to right wing propaganda even on shows that don't promote themselves as right wing. These are people who say they vote Republican because they believe in working for a living.

The hope is that these sheeple will wake up and realize things are worse for them under Republicans.

It hasn't worked so far because all of the propaganda makes it sound like the world is coming to an end when Democrats win and it's all joyous blue skies and caviar dreams when Republicans win.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:23 PM

63splitwindow (2,657 posts)

11. Yep, they are a fucking nut Don the Con supporter seeking a messiah. nt

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:28 PM

yuiyoshida (37,925 posts)

12. They are ill informed...three words

SUPREME COURT PICKS

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:57 PM

keithbvadu2 (26,178 posts)

17. "SUPREME COURT PICKS"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028040404

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:59 PM

yuiyoshida (37,925 posts)

19. Indeed.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:37 PM

PatSeg (42,519 posts)

13. More like very poorly educated

and uninformed, except for those that are republican plants.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:49 PM

Moostache (9,476 posts)

14. I donated to the other guy, supported the other guy, and voted for the other guy in primary...

But there is no way in hell I would EVER vote for Trump in ANY election, for ANY position down to and including dog catcher.

I am as disappointed as anyone that Bernie Sanders was treated unfairly and lost the primary, but that happened and is not changing no matter how many garments are rended, how many teeth are gnashed or how long the cries of "foul!" and "shame!" ring out.

To allow the Talking Yam to be elected is anathema to anyone with an ounce of progressive politics in their blood. I have been guilty of saying (and sometimes really believing) that there is no difference between the parties, but this time around that is totally wrong.

The Trumpster Fire is an existential threat to the Republic and a danger to the world. He cannot be allowed to win because too many people want to sit it out on general principle. There is too much at stake to allow a preventable, horrible outcome.

GOTV!!!
GOTV!!!
GOTV!!!
GOTV!!!
GOTV!!!

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:51 PM

keithbvadu2 (26,178 posts)

15. The same single minded attitude of the tea party types.

Cut your nose off to spite your face.

My way or the highway.

No compromise. No shades of gray.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:56 PM

FairWinds (1,717 posts)

16. How does the name-calling help?

Who are you trying to persuade?

How do obscenities strengthen your case?

How will this improve party unity?

". . a fucking NUT."

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Response to FairWinds (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:01 PM

fleabiscuit (4,494 posts)

20. "he/she would vote for Trump to stop Hillary" from OP. Seems pretty clear.

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Response to FairWinds (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:04 PM

DLevine (1,751 posts)

21. Anybody who would vote for Trump is no Democrat.

Trump supporters are bat-shit crazy.

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Response to FairWinds (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:45 PM

LanternWaste (37,748 posts)

30. Sometimes, venting against the absurd is not in fact, designed to persuade but to simply vent

Sometimes, venting against the absurd is not in fact, designed to persuade but to simply vent. Not designed to strengthen a case, but to vent. Not designed to improve party unity, but simply to vent.

Visceral reactions are indeed, human nature.

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Response to FairWinds (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:47 PM

63splitwindow (2,657 posts)

31. What does party unity have to do with fucking nuts Don the Con voters? nt

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:58 PM

redstatebluegirl (11,908 posts)

18. We have people here who will do that.

I know people who say letting Trump win will make their point that we need to move left. They are stupid, they don't realize what 30 years of a right wing court could do to us. They are young and ignorant.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:14 PM

ismnotwasm (40,640 posts)

22. I agree

Such an odd way of thinking

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:18 PM

stonecutter357 (12,376 posts)

24. K&R!

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:18 PM

4lbs (6,079 posts)

25. MSNBC's Jacob Soboroff interviewed one such protestor earlier today.

He asked her about whether she would vote for Trump over Hillary,

and she said "Yes, because I can understand and agree with a lot of what he says."

Say what?!?!??

I noticed that this particular "Bernie supporter" being interviewed did not have any Bernie signs or slogans with her.

She simply had a "Show us the transcripts" plain black-and-white sign.

Therefore, I seriously doubt she is a real progressive liberal that truly supports Sanders because of progressive liberal policies, and may have been a GOP plant to foment discontent.

No way would any true Bernie Sanders supporter that was in support of his progressive liberal ideals ever entertain any thought of voting for Trump.

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Response to 4lbs (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 06:02 AM

kcr (15,017 posts)

37. Yep, that is someone who would have been right at home at the RNC

No different. If she actually thinks she's a progressive, and was truthful in saying she supports Bernie, she's really confused. You can't actually agree with Donald Trump and the things he says and be progressive.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:20 PM

Stryst (714 posts)

26. This is where I'm at.

I don't like Sec. Clinton, I don't trust her, and I'm still not over her public denouncements of marriage equality or her vote for the Iraq war.

But Drumph can NOT be allowed to pick Supreme Court seats. He CANNOT be allowed any control over our nuclear arsenal. I will not stand for him representing our country to the rest of the world.

Sec. Clinton will get the nomination, and she will get my vote, and my partners vote, and my parents votes and all of my friends votes.

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Response to Stryst (Reply #26)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:24 PM

PoliticalMalcontent (449 posts)

27. +1

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:34 PM

retrowire (10,345 posts)

28. totally agree. nt

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:38 PM

War Pigs (252 posts)

29. 95k florida nader voters put that dipshit shrub in the WH

and changed the course of history. never forget!!!!

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:49 PM

LW1977 (1,073 posts)

32. At this point in time..

K&R

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:18 PM

Ineeda (3,626 posts)

33. Bunch of evil, scary posts on this over at that other site.

I find it stupid and frightening that anyone, especially a "Democrat" or "Progressive", would prefer an actual lunatic in a position of power over them. They have turned a legitimate revolutionary effort into an insane cult, the results of which, if successful, could mean the end of our civilization.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:31 PM

skepticscott (13,029 posts)

34. As ugly as this all is

and as much of a cluster fuck as the DNC has become, none of this has transformed Donald Trump from an ignorant, bigoted, narcissistic psychopath into a reasonable alternative to Hillary Clinton. Not even remotely. Nor has it suddenly made Jill Stein qualified to hold the office of president (or even slightly more qualified than she was two weeks ago).

Supposed progressives whose only plan for the country is to break it into pieces and then cross their fingers that those pieces will somehow magically re-assemble themselves into something better are just batshit crazy. Every four years, they pop up to vote for a personality, but after Election Day, when the hard, unglamorous work of party building starts, they are nowhere to be found. Which is why their "revolutions" never go anywhere positive, and won't this time, either.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 05:06 AM

raven mad (4,940 posts)

35. Unfortunately, there are a lot of ignorant uneducated nuts.

But I got my neighborhood voting for Hillary. They are all scared of tRump.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 05:53 AM

VOX (22,976 posts)

36. Deluded by free-floating fear and hate...

Seriously, what comprises the GOP and the right wing have precious few or no immediate plans for much of anything in the near future.

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:20 AM

OnionPatch (6,115 posts)

43. I can agree with that

Even though I've been a huge Bernie supporter.

In a democracy, there has to he compromise. A lot of people don't get to have their first choice. That's just what happens when hundreds of millions of people have to come to a consensus. Any Bernie supporter who thinks Trump is a better choice than Hillary is seriously confused.

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