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Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:10 PM Jul 2016

A modest proposal for tonight's roll call vote, to show maximum support for both Bernie and Hillary.

Have the super delegates abstain on the first ballot, so that the pledged delegates can vote for the candidate they were elected to vote for and the progressive wing of the party can demonstrate its support, but the nomination goes to a second ballot.

Have everyone vote unanimously for Hillary on the second ballot to make the strongest possible show of party unity and support for the nominee.

Yeah, I know its not realistic, but I can still dream.

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A modest proposal for tonight's roll call vote, to show maximum support for both Bernie and Hillary. (Original Post) Fozzledick Jul 2016 OP
We need to stop obsessing about Bernie. This is about Hillary. Squinch Jul 2016 #1
This isn't about Bernie, its about party unity. Fozzledick Jul 2016 #4
The roll call is about party unity. A lot of the speakers are specifically chosen to appeal to Squinch Jul 2016 #6
Exactly! Thank ain't an episode of Oprah! NurseJackie Jul 2016 #5
Um, why not? Fozzledick Jul 2016 #10
Sorry, but no way. auntpurl Jul 2016 #2
What better show of support than a unanimous vote? Fozzledick Jul 2016 #7
I don't want to go to a second ballot. No way. auntpurl Jul 2016 #8
You do realize the 2008 race was much closer right? mythology Jul 2016 #14
That's a great idea democrattotheend Jul 2016 #3
Why do only Sanders supporters think this is a good idea? CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #11
Why do so many accommodations have to be made for Bernie? fun n serious Jul 2016 #9
And they're STILL not happy. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #12
I am in shock at how emotional some are. fun n serious Jul 2016 #16
Part of the blame can rest at the Bernie's feet ... NurseJackie Jul 2016 #18
Also... fun n serious Jul 2016 #19
Exactly. He was on stage saying his campaign made history..NO.. asuhornets Jul 2016 #15
Hillary won.. She is the one creating history...nt asuhornets Jul 2016 #13
I think it would make a stronger statement of her victory democrattotheend Jul 2016 #17
No. Bernie lost. time to get over Bernie. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #20
I like the idea. Both sides get something they want. DanTex Jul 2016 #21
No. Everyone doesn't get a trophy in politics. ecstatic Jul 2016 #22
^^^^^This this this this this Squinch Jul 2016 #23

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
6. The roll call is about party unity. A lot of the speakers are specifically chosen to appeal to
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jul 2016

party unity. The convention is about Hillary.

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
10. Um, why not?
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jul 2016

Now you've got me thinking about Hillary beginning her acceptance speech with "Everyone, look under your seats".

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
2. Sorry, but no way.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jul 2016

We are making history tonight. I don't want that delayed or messed with. I want a strong, uplifting, unified, beautiful show of support for our wonderful nominee.

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
7. What better show of support than a unanimous vote?
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jul 2016

Without breaking the rules about pledged delegates or ignoring half of the party.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
8. I don't want to go to a second ballot. No way.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jul 2016

The media will spin that as we can't unite behind one candidate and had to go to a second ballot.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
14. You do realize the 2008 race was much closer right?
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jul 2016

Clinton supporters didn't need an homage like this. The small subset of Sanders supporters who have been booing good people like Warren, Cummings and Sanders wouldn't be won over by this gesture given that they jeered Sanders for his lack of purity.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
3. That's a great idea
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:14 PM
Jul 2016

I think it would help if the Bernie delegates were reminded that Hillary won a clear majority of pledged delegates too. It would make it harder to claim that the vote was rigged.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
11. Why do only Sanders supporters think this is a good idea?
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jul 2016

if the super delegates didn't exist Sanders would have been beaten long ago. The super delegates were the only thing that allowed Sanders to continue his campaign as long as he did. Now please understand that I have absolutely no problem with what he did, but put let's not continue the farce the super delegates somehow polluted the process for Sanders, because objectively that simply wasn't the case.

But you know what, we are wasting out time writing about this - it simply is not going to happen.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
9. Why do so many accommodations have to be made for Bernie?
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jul 2016

This was not close. It was a landslide won by Clinton. In 2008 Barack Obama won by less than 1% and Hillary did not demand all this special treatment. Wowza.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. And they're STILL not happy.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jul 2016

But ... according to more than one "advocate" and excuse-maker posting here, we should be more patient with them to help them get over their loss. We just need to give them room and time to accept things. We shouldn't rush it, because that could drive them away. Because of their passions, it's just taking them longer to disengage.

Well, to that I can only respond with:


 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
16. I am in shock at how emotional some are.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jul 2016

The math was out of reach months ago, I think they had plenty of greiving time.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. Part of the blame can rest at the Bernie's feet ...
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jul 2016

... he really did take too long in conceding defeat. He kept plying them with this "all-the-way-to-the-convention" stuff, and many of these delegates must have truly believed that the SD's would suddenly switch to support Bernie. His "she's-not-qualified" rhetoric didn't help either (except for the fact that he gave Trump some new talking-points.)

Not only had they convinced themselves of the fantasy, but Bernie's actions and words helped to reinforce it.

This isn't the way that mature delegates act when they're disappointed. They're behaving like spoiled children.

I'll be so glad when this is over. We'll have made history, and the hangers-on won't have a national stage on which they can disrupt, boo, fling-poo, and expose their rear-ends to the world.

#FeelTheUnityEventually

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
17. I think it would make a stronger statement of her victory
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:43 PM
Jul 2016

If they did this demonstration to make it clear that she won a majority of votes in the primaries.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
21. I like the idea. Both sides get something they want.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jul 2016

Now we just need to make you convention chair in the next 5 minutes. Any ideas?

ecstatic

(32,703 posts)
22. No. Everyone doesn't get a trophy in politics.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jul 2016

Maybe in new age little leagues. Time to move on. He lost.

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