How is it going to work with Vermont moving for nomination by acclamation?

[democrattotheend]

This does not make a lot of sense to me. All of the pledged delegates from Vermont are Bernie delegates. How will the campaigns get them to agree to move for nomination by acclamation?

I can't imagine anyone thinks it is a good idea to have a superdelegate make that motion, especially a superdelegate from Vermont.

The only way I see this working is if Bernie does it himself.

[emulatorloo]

1. I did not know that was in the works?

Can you please tell me a little more?

(I do recall reading that sanders as a super delegate is voting HRC)

[democrattotheend]

2. There are a couple of threads on it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512303684

They say Vermont is going to go last and move for nomination of Hillary by acclamation after all of the delegates have voted. But I don't know how they will convince the delegates from Vermont to do that.

[democrattotheend]

4. Really? I did not hear that

He was saying that he wanted his delegates to vote for him, to show what we accomplished as a movement. It seems odd that he would say that but vote for HRC himself.

[emulatorloo]

9. Thanks for the link above! Sorry can't remember where I read that

but makes sense to me in light of his endorsement. If I can dig something up will post a link.

[emulatorloo]

23. Wikipedia list of super delegates shows Bernie to vote for Clinton.

Best I could find, but understand I am a lazy person lol

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016

[geek tragedy]

3. I think either Bernie has to do it, or they have to just let the voting run its course

and have a final number to show that everyone's votes were counted.

Full transparency, or a big bear hug between the rivals.

A motion on the floor could backfire spectacularly with claims of "rigged!!!!"

[democrattotheend]

6. I agree

The only other way I could see this working is if Bernie convinces all of the pledged delegates from Vermont to get behind this. Unlikely, but possible, since many of them are probably people he knows.

[geek tragedy]

12. I imagine the VT delegation will line up behind what he wants

he probably knows all of them, and they don't want to be the turd in his punch bowl

[auntpurl]

24. They might actually be upset/embarrassed about the behavior of his more vocal

supporters. They might want to protect Bernie and the movement from any more booing etc. I remember Cali was always very supportive and protective of Bernie being able to do what he needed to do for political expediency, and she had no patience with his more militant supporters who didn't want him to give an inch re; endorsing Hillary etc.

[leftofcool]

5. Vermont will go last

After all the votes are counted, Hillary will be ahead, Vermont will then vote to name Hillary the nominee by acclamation.

[democrattotheend]

8. I understand that

But given how strongly most Bernie delegates feel about the roll call, how will the campaign get the Vermont delegates to make this motion?

[geek tragedy]

14. and, what's the point of acclamation if she already has a majority?

seems a little jumbled, though I'm sure they'll get it sorted out

[democrattotheend]

16. To make it unanimous, I guess

Personally I think they should just let the roll call play out and not stage some gimmick to short circuit it.

[geek tragedy]

17. exactly, you can just see it

Vermont delegate: "I move to nominate Hillary Rodham Clinton by unanimous consent."

About 300 Sanders delegates: "BOOOOOOOO!!!"

[LoverOfLiberty]

21. Even if 300 Sanders delegates BOO

which is sounds like that is way too high of a number, the other 4,700 will be cheering.

[emulatorloo]

26. Symbolic gesture for party unity.

As I understand it, CA delegates were the sources of loudest boos yesterday. If the CA delegates boo, no body will be able to hear them over the cheers.

[geek tragedy]

28. I just don't see all the Sanders delegates agreeing to have their votes at the convention not count.

They have a lot of emotion invested in having their votes counted at the roll call--having a motion to have those votes all get converted into Clinton votes seems like an unnecessary risk.

[emulatorloo]

29. Fair enough and totally get what yr saying. Agreed on emotional investment

Hadn't planned on watching roll call, but now I must to see how it all plays out.

[lapucelle]

7. Is Senator Sanders a superdelegate?

http://time.com/4294398/bernie-sanders-superdelegate/

[democrattotheend]

10. Yes

So maybe he is planning to do what Hillary did, but do so after the roll call has played out. I think that is the wiser move. If the full roll call does not play out his delegates will feel it was rigged and are more likely to be disruptive again.

[emulatorloo]

11. Yes

[yallerdawg]

13. Yes, he is.

What's that word?

[JTFrog]

25. Establishment?

[onehandle]

15. Hillary got the majority of votes. They will be the last to report their votes. They finish the math

The vote will be complete and they will announce that she has won.

How is this confusing?

[lapucelle]

18. They will not go through the entire roster of states?

[onehandle]

22. See the word 'last' in my reply title.

Also see this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141531775

[democrattotheend]

19. Putting her over the top is not the same thing as nomination by acclamation

Nomination by acclamation means they suspend the roll call and nominate her unanimously.

If the plan is to have Vermont be the state that puts her over the top, that is a really stupid idea. Hillary got NO pledged delegates in Vermont. Having Vermont put her over the top would mean an unelected superdelegate supporting Hillary from a state that gave Bernie over 87% in the primary puts her over. Terrible optics, unless Bernie does it himself.

[democrattotheend]

20. Hillary got no elected delegates from Vermont

So if Vermont puts her over, that means unelected superdelegates who are going against 87% of the voters in their state put her over. That is a TERRIBLE idea. The only way I could see that working is if Bernie himself casts the vote to put her over or moves for nomination by acclamation.

[onehandle]

27. All states will report their votes including Vermont who REQUESTED TO GO LAST.

Then, the math over, they move to finish the equation by acclamation to say she won.

It's not difficult...