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Trump takes the lead in the Reuters/Ipsos poll (Original Post) woolldog Jul 2016 OP
This will all change shortly. Being behind after your opponent's convention is normal. Zynx Jul 2016 #1
Yep. Pretty much every time. nt stevenleser Jul 2016 #36
Not buying those results. brush Jul 2016 #2
I used to work for an outfit 2naSalit Jul 2016 #49
it's an online poll woolldog Jul 2016 #52
An online poll??!! You might as well use a crystal ball. Why is Nate Silver saying that though. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2016 #55
Self selection BlueInPhilly Jul 2016 #57
Not entirely... 2naSalit Jul 2016 #60
Check back in after Labor Day. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #3
THIS! Larry Sabato said the exact same thing last night. grossproffit Jul 2016 #24
Like him, I'm a political scientist. We tend to know these things. :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #32
Wow. How impressive. So glad to have you here. grossproffit Jul 2016 #66
Weird. Shows Hillary +8.5% for me: JaneyVee Jul 2016 #4
That link shows 35-34 Trump. woolldog Jul 2016 #7
Just curious gabeana Jul 2016 #40
... woolldog Jul 2016 #45
already seen these responses not impressed gabeana Jul 2016 #48
huh? woolldog Jul 2016 #50
Sensitive aren't you gabeana Jul 2016 #58
No - it has Hillary WINNING. HA! bettyellen Jul 2016 #44
uh huh woolldog Jul 2016 #46
Poll: Romney gets convention bounce, takes national lead sufrommich Jul 2016 #5
In that article kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #9
Good catch. nt woolldog Jul 2016 #13
Romney was a normal candidate woolldog Jul 2016 #10
Check back in after Nov. 8th. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2016 #6
. Grassy Knoll Jul 2016 #8
Scary unitedwethrive Jul 2016 #11
And yet there's so much complacency here woolldog Jul 2016 #12
This time next week oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #15
I am sick of the apathy and complacency etherealtruth Jul 2016 #17
Trump should be down 30pts - make that 50 pts - moonscape Jul 2016 #19
Sec. Clinton Charles Bukowski Jul 2016 #14
What exactly do you base that statement woolldog Jul 2016 #16
Usc is not a poll Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #21
I'm basing on the fact that every candidate gets a convention bounce Charles Bukowski Jul 2016 #22
ok. I was hoping that you had more than speculation and conjecture. woolldog Jul 2016 #28
Kerry didn't. nt revbones Jul 2016 #64
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? renie408 Jul 2016 #18
Hmmmm, last link is 53 Hillary 47 tRump... chance of winning... don't know what's up with those #'s uponit7771 Jul 2016 #20
There's a polls only forecast and a now-cast. woolldog Jul 2016 #23
ok... don't see the need for the now forecast but anyway.. down ballot ... need to GOTV uponit7771 Jul 2016 #29
I don't believe that Beantighe Jul 2016 #25
You have a modus operandi Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #26
yup obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #30
+1, looks like a repeat of 2012... people even saying nationals mean little right now... good find uponit7771 Jul 2016 #31
You mean a modus operandi woolldog Jul 2016 #34
I could easily test Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #35
I've addressed this issue already. woolldog Jul 2016 #41
Sorry you remind me of chicken little gabeana Jul 2016 #47
Lay off the damned polls until after Labor Day. Right now they mean jack shit. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #27
+1. And stop wetting your pants people, as well. It's a long slog. RonniePudding Jul 2016 #33
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #37
I was talking about the OP RonniePudding Jul 2016 #38
your link gives me different numbers....both pools only and polls plus for 5thirty8.... riversedge Jul 2016 #39
you're doing it wrong... woolldog Jul 2016 #42
James Comey SirBrockington Jul 2016 #43
YEP Cosmocat Jul 2016 #51
I think you're right. woolldog Jul 2016 #56
are people just screwing with the pollsters now? Lebam in LA Jul 2016 #53
If the election were held today, Island Blue Jul 2016 #54
yeah but it is not being held today gabeana Jul 2016 #61
I guess I should have used some type of Island Blue Jul 2016 #62
I think we might be vadermike Jul 2016 #59
It is fucking July gabeana Jul 2016 #67
How is this possible? democrattotheend Jul 2016 #63
About half of America jamese777 Jul 2016 #65

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
49. I used to work for an outfit
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jul 2016

who conducted these IPSOS polls, they can only call and interview people at landline phones and not cell phones so... And they have random, allegedly dialers - machine that do the dialing. Cell phones may be allowed now but you still have to agree to be interviewed and answer questions designed to get a certain answer profile.

Polls are not always what we think they are.

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
60. Not entirely...
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jul 2016

It's still a poll based on those who wish to participate and an online poll is little more than structured bullshit. So what was you point in the first place then? I don't consider your post to have any valididty now.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
50. huh?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jul 2016

I don't care whether you're impressed or not. You asked a question, you got an answer.

No more responses for you!

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
9. In that article
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:00 PM
Jul 2016

Obama was still up by 1.1 in the average of polls. He eventually won by 4 points.

Right now Trump is up by 1.1 in the same realclearpolitics average of polls.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
10. Romney was a normal candidate
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:00 PM
Jul 2016

and a decent man. Trump is no Romney. He shouldn't be anywhere near Clinton. What does that say about this country?

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
12. And yet there's so much complacency here
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jul 2016

on DU and among Democrats generally, laughing and joking thinking that there's no way Trump can win. And yet he's winning. And so many fools refuse to believe it.

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
15. This time next week
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:07 PM
Jul 2016

we'll know where the race really stands. It's a sad commentary on America that a piece of fetid fecal material such as Traitor Trump could be close at any point in the race.

One word sums up my feelings about it at this point: Concerned.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
19. Trump should be down 30pts - make that 50 pts -
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jul 2016

It's not fathomable that anyone would actually vote for this guy.

I'm terrified. And I'm scared because every other time I thought it would be impossible (Reagan, then Bush Jr) - I turned out to be wrong.

Madness. Utter madness.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
14. Sec. Clinton
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jul 2016

was up 2 on RCP when the RNC began, now Trump is up 1.

Thats not much of a bounce, and it will surely be wiped out by Monday.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
16. What exactly do you base that statement
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jul 2016

that "it will surely be wiped out by Monday" on?

What do the last few days in the tracking polls say? (Ipsos, USC?) Has there been a lot of movement? Just curious. When a tracking poll averages multiple days, sometimes if you see big movement in the most recent samples you can feel confident predicting what it will look like in a few days. Are you seeing that and that's what's leading you to make such a confident statement?

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
22. I'm basing on the fact that every candidate gets a convention bounce
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:16 PM
Jul 2016

and it's usually bigger for Dems.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
28. ok. I was hoping that you had more than speculation and conjecture.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jul 2016

I suspect she'll get a bump too. But you don't know for a fact what's going to happen.

renie408

(9,854 posts)
18. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jul 2016

How is this happening? NO, don't tell me its the convention bump or whatthefuckever. HOW DOES TRUMP HAVE ANYBODY THAT SAYS THEY WOULD VOTE FOR HIM?

What the fuck?

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
23. There's a polls only forecast and a now-cast.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jul 2016

Try clicking the radio buttons on the upper left hand corner.

Beantighe

(126 posts)
25. I don't believe that
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:19 PM
Jul 2016

but I will pretend it's true. It will make me work that much harder to make sure Trump is handed his ass.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
34. You mean a modus operandi
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jul 2016

of posting factually accurate OPs backed by links to preeminent polling sites like 538? Yes.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
35. I could easily test
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jul 2016

Whether you have a tendency to post only D lead or R lead polls using a z score for frequency counts.

It wouldn't be hard.

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
47. Sorry you remind me of chicken little
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:40 PM
Jul 2016

like somehow you are the savior because if it wasn't for you we would just sit on our hands and let Trump win

get over yourself
it is mid July and the republicans just had their convention and it is basically tied and your scare tactics with regard to silver, well silver wrote article explaining polls at this time are really a lot of noise

Response to RonniePudding (Reply #33)

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
39. your link gives me different numbers....both pools only and polls plus for 5thirty8....
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jul 2016



http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo


Who will win the presidency?

Chance of winning
FiveThirtyEight

Hillary Clinton

52.6%

Donald Trump

47.3%
FiveThirtyEight
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Key

50%

60

70

80

90

Clinton

Trump

Tipping points
Electoral votes

Hillary Clinton

274.9

Donald Trump

262.5

Gary Johnson

0.5
Popular vote

Hillary Clinton

46.1%

Donald Trump

44.9%

Gary Johnson

7.7%
How the odds have changed

We'll be updating our forecasts every time new data is available, every day through Nov. 8.
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Who’s ahead in each state and by how much

SirBrockington

(259 posts)
43. James Comey
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jul 2016

Did maximum damage with his indictment "non-indictment"

I imagine the dramatic changes occurred right at that time.

Two weeks ago Hillary was up 13 points and people were talking
a 1984 type possible rout.

Lebam in LA

(1,345 posts)
53. are people just screwing with the pollsters now?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jul 2016

I just cannot believe the majority of American support this moron.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
59. I think we might be
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jul 2016

Toast .. Now wiki leaks vmail ...god help us all If the trump thing with Russia doesn't do it and Hillary doesn't get a bounce I don't know what to think anymore RIP USA I'm not dreaming this unfortunately

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
63. How is this possible?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:21 PM
Jul 2016

With all of the crazy things Trump has said and done, how is Hillary not 20 points ahead?

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