The Bernie or bust people and tonight's speech

[Jakes Progress]

could spell the end of Bernie's attempt to move the party to the left. He got planks in the platform. He got speaking time. He got all of the party praising him. Now, it seems his more tone-deaf and uninformed followers plan to shout down Hillary during her speech.

They will make mockery of the movement. It makes me sick.

[NurseJackie]

1. "They will make mockery of the movement." ~~~ Too late.

[rock]

15. +1

Well put.

[JaneyVee]

2. The regressive left.

[skylucy]

3. Do you know how many of them are saying they are going to walk out?

HILLARY/KAINE 2016

[riversedge]

5. I do not know and probably no one knows until and if it happens.

[whatthehey]

26. I couldn't give a toss if they walk out

as long as they do not interrupt or make a mockery of the proceedings.

[Lanius]

4. Well they've already booed Bernie,

and if you include them booing a Democratic Party icon like Elijah Cummings, I think they've already done damage to their own movement.

[Johnny2X2X]

6. They couldn't take yes for an answer

These people are a little disturbing. I understand some of their frustration, but they have a scorched earth policy of wanting 100% and no less, it's what you expect from the far right.

They have a purity test for everyone and anyone who fails gets their wrath.

[Lanius]

12. Ideological purists and anarchists

I think you have a mix of purists and anarchists in the Bernie diehards. They include people who reject any politician who does not pass all (or almost all) of their far-left metric. In addition, since their preferred candidate lost, many are willing to allow Trump to win, who they believe will be such a disaster as president his administration will "destroy" the system and allow them to build a new one. Many of them are privileged enough to consider allowing Trump to win, while others will be hurt but are mentally off-the-rails with rage at this point.

[geek tragedy]

7. Hopefully they keep it quiet and just walk out.

Failing that, though it's highly unlikely, would love to see this reprised.

[BlueStateLib]

8. dana bash said they were yelling "you suck" during carole king's performance

[HooptieWagon]

14. Throwing chairs too, I'm sure.

[scscholar]

25. Who doesn't like Carole King?

I guess if you don't like women in general, but even then!

[Armstead]

9. Yeah let's dump universal healthcare because a few people act like jerks

That's really the way to make progress.

[geek tragedy]

17. the policy goals will remain, but the angry extremists who refuse to work within

the party system will become radioactive, and that will choke off some of the oxygen.

tough balancing act.

When people self-identify as Berniecrats, the first thing people will ask themselves: "is this person one of those goddamn crazy people?"

Not helpful.

[Starry Messenger]

10. We tried to sound the alarm six months ago.

We got told we were oligarch-loving Brock trolls who worship the establishment. I'm a socialist, I like it when things move left. It takes organization though, not sabotage. But we got isolated and treated like we all adore the wealthy. Better luck next time.

[unitedwethrive]

11. They have certainly been successful in stirring up a strong dislike

for everything they represent. And I was very sympathetic to them a couple weeks ago.

[John Poet]

13. I hope nothing really happens, or if it does

that people don't give it too much attention.

[jalan48]

16. End of the attempt? What, do you want the Party to become an old folks club?

Bernie energized the young voters.

[geek tragedy]

18. Emotional and intellectual adults are always welcome

the majority of Sanders supporters fit those criteria

the kook fringe adolescents acting up this week do not

[Lanius]

19. Now, if those young voters

would use their heads and realize Trump needs to be stopped. Clinton is someone they can work with and push left over the next 4-8 years. Trump is not.

[Jakes Progress]

27. Energized for what purpose?

How does it benefit the party to energize privileged little snots who then try to destroy the party. Is that what Bernie was all about? It's like the 27 year-old who's living at home. Then he burns the house down because he didn't want mashed potatoes for dinner.

A lot of this is because Berne flirted with the right wing "Hillary is a monster" meme while he was running. Now he can't put it back in the box.

[jalan48]

28. Judgmental much?

[Jakes Progress]

29. That's really rich.

I'm sure the irony of your post escapes you, but most of us had a good laugh.

[renate]

20. I have been a diehard Bernie supporter since Day One

I think he had a HUGE impact on the Democratic platform, which is what he wanted. These people are letting the perfect be the enemy of the good--and we do NOT have that luxury given who the Republican nominee is.

And while I still believe that they have a right to express themselves (in the sense that, while I would expect Republicans to quash dissent, Democrats are better than that), they should not exercise that right. It's simply impractical. Are they unaware, or uncaring, that the stakes are do-or-die, or that they are now actively turning people against them?

If Trump were even remotely tolerable, that'd be one thing, but he is an existential threat to the United States. Disrupting the convention on national TV is self-indulgence--self-indulgence that they have a right to, but it is just SUCH a bad idea. They should wait for smaller campaign appearances, where they could make their points without being loathed. (I myself don't loathe them, but there is a time and a place where they could be effective, and this is NOT IT.)

[UMTerp01]

21. I don't know if they will disrupt HRC but their asses knew to shut the hell up for Michelle Obama

Joy Reid said it best that if it even appeared as though someone was going to say "B-"....not even the whole "Boo" but that it appeared as though they were going to fix their lips to do so there would've been problems in that hall.

[David__77]

22. I doubt it.

I think that the party will go "left" as it captured by new generations. I put "left" in quotes because I don't really think it's too useful of a concept. I do think the party will adopt positions in the future that are considered more "left" than those presently adopted, regardless of the delegates' response to any speech.

[redstatebluegirl]

23. They are behaving like our version of the tea party.

I'm sure I could get a hide for this but it is true. The "purity tests" all of that nonsense.

[hurple]

24. They're making Trump and his followers look like the mature adults in the room

They're all pathetic sore losers.

[BlueMTexpat]

30. The busters will become

footnotes to history.

Those supporters who brought new energy and passion to the party and who are uniting to elect Hillary will not only keep the movement alive but may be surprised to discover how many ideals we who have been Hillary supporters all along share with them!

WE are the "revolution." But that "revolution" is not in showing up en masse for big rallies or attempting to disrupt conventions of one's own political allies, it is in the ongoing quiet, daily struggle of moving things forward while trying to ensure that the most vulnerable are not left behind. That doesn't usually get the headlines, but it is the most effective way of changing things.