"Ban fracking now" chant from CA delegation

[brooklynite]

[Doctor Jack]

1. Are the Democrats generally pro-fracking?

This all seems like a complete waste of time. Why protest people that generally agree with you?

[Arugula Latte]

3. The nominee of the party pushed fracking around the world as Sec. of State.

So, yeah, it's relevant.

[SirBrockington]

7. It's pretty relevant to Ohio too

Doesn't make sense to pick a fight before the election on a big issue in a major swing state with working
class voters in that state who's job is dependent on that industry. The change to pure green energy happens
over time

[Arugula Latte]

9. Right. During the primary we peasants were told that incremental change is all we can expect.

We got the message: Don't ask for stuff unless you're a corporation or already wealthy.

[yallerdawg]

12. Which is worse?

Coal used around the world - or oil and natural gas?

Global Shale Gas Initiative

From 2010:

The shale gas revolution could be the means of blunting the rise of carbon dioxide emissions and give new hope for staying within the 2 degrees Celsius scenario. This resource is widely dispersed across the planet, cheap to develop and offers many of the same energy benefits as coal. If exploited properly, it could replace coal within a couple of decades as a primary fuel.

By developing shale gas as a replacement fuel for coal we retrieve the prospect of blunting — and possibly reversing — the upward climb of carbon dioxide emissions. Shale gas emits 50 percent less carbon dioxide than coal, and so if countries like China and India made the switch on a large scale, then we have a chance to reset the trajectory of global carbon dioxide emissions.

A widespread turn to the use of shale gas would give the planet precious time to develop other, renewable solutions to further lower our output of carbon dioxide. Current renewable energy sources cannot in any way deliver the same savings in carbon emissions that we can achieve by replacing coal with shale gas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/opinion/shale-gas-to-the-climate-rescue.html?_r=0

[procon]

18. Odd, wasn't that the president's call, or did Hillary stage a coup and take over his job? nt

[Brother Buzz]

8. California's governor, Jerry Brown, is pro-fracking

Odd, that. But it's a state issue, and I guess they desire to shine a little light on the subject in a national venue.

[fizzgig]

13. hickenlooper is

drank fracking fluid once to prove it's safe.

[stopbush]

2. "Higher gas prices now!"

[Arugula Latte]

4. Seriously? You're pro-fracking?

Poisoned water and earthquakes be damned, huh?

[stopbush]

10. Not pro-fracking in the wider sense, but there are trade offs.

The lower gas prices we're enjoying these days are in large part due to energy obtained through fracking making up a large part of our energy sourcing. Stop fracking and we go back to being more dependent on oil than we are today.

The answer of course is renewables, but we don't seem to have the will to move in that direction.

BTW - our second car is a Fiat 500 - fully electric.

[Arugula Latte]

11. Hillary certainly doesn't seem to have the will, at least.

If we'd nominated someone else that would have been different.

[ismnotwasm]

15. Yes she does

Stop it.

[TheBlackAdder]

16. Most is for Export--Scheduled to be shipped off-shore via 10 LNG terminals on both coasts.

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It's bullshit to think that the LNG is for domestic consumption.

The whole plan is to send it off to emerging countries so that the gas and oil companies can continue to make profits.


They are OK for damaging our ecology for the short-term buck!


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[TheKentuckian]

5. Good!

[Armstead]

19. Troublemaker

[geek tragedy]

6. harmless (the chanting that is) nt

[MadBadger]

14. Was it while somebody was speaking?

[procon]

17. Like that's an issue that will be solved on the stage set.

Morans!

[Hekate]

20. My fellow Californians: You are embarrassing. Just shut up.