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10 POINT BOUNCE FOR HILLARY!!!! NOW UP 15 POINTS!!!!!!!! (Original Post) MohRokTah Jul 2016 OP
Nice B Calm Jul 2016 #1
BOOM!!!! workinclasszero Jul 2016 #2
If that poll has accuracy... NCTraveler Jul 2016 #3
In one poll rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #4
Right we are seeing some polls now that should be viewed with credulousness Cosmocat Jul 2016 #10
I want to see that bastard humiliated. The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #5
I want a Goldwater style workinclasszero Jul 2016 #6
Yep, this needs to be an electoral college LANDSLIDE MohRokTah Jul 2016 #7
I don't know if that's possible, but the honor of our country demands this small minded man be... NNadir Jul 2016 #21
Trump connecticut yankee Jul 2016 #24
I wouldn't give Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #25
He'll be saying that no matter what. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #27
He says it now MFM008 Jul 2016 #36
Me too! Every last fucking one of them. lonestarnot Jul 2016 #52
K&R sheshe2 Jul 2016 #8
WOOT!!! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #9
The 10 point bounce Johnny2X2X Jul 2016 #11
It figures! Such a brilliant Convention! Props to All who made that Cha Jul 2016 #12
We owe those convention folks big time! workinclasszero Jul 2016 #13
Anyone know anything about this pollster? TeddyR Jul 2016 #14
Methinks this bump is permanent Tiggeroshii Jul 2016 #15
Fivethirtyeight gives it a rating of B- frazzled Jul 2016 #16
Thank goodness! Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2016 #17
This is positive news, but please folks, don't get complacent...the race is still 100 days away Farmgirl1961 Jul 2016 #18
Sage advice DFW Jul 2016 #28
Rabadabbadoo Dem2 Jul 2016 #19
I'm so glad. I thought she did a wonderful job! Overseas Jul 2016 #20
I love the RuPuke assessment ToxMarz Jul 2016 #22
nice! Bill USA Jul 2016 #23
& yet Bigredhunk Jul 2016 #26
White men no longer control elections workinclasszero Jul 2016 #31
F**k M$NBc! They interviewed Jill Stein during their DNC coverage. LW1977 Jul 2016 #32
That's just the beginning. It will higher next week. nt glennward Jul 2016 #29
What the hell is going on at fivethirtyeight? LW1977 Jul 2016 #30
Now trumps ahead on fivethirtyeight! LW1977 Jul 2016 #33
Silver is the only one doing this. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #37
No, he's just using a very reactionary model for the Nowcast musicblind Jul 2016 #42
Yes, and he invented the Nowcast model this cycle to put eyes on glass. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #43
+1, His "now cast" bullshit is too subjective... no fuzzy logic even used just someones opinion base uponit7771 Jul 2016 #44
Oh, you poor baby Sugarcoated Jul 2016 #40
I think we're still seeing MFM008 Jul 2016 #38
That's the difference between National polling -vs- State polling progressoid Jul 2016 #41
+1, "...However, a lot of 538's polls are over a month old..." I don't know what's up with Silver uponit7771 Jul 2016 #45
That convention hit Trump bucolic_frolic Jul 2016 #34
Bravo! smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #35
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2016 #39
I still say, Don't wait till you see the whites of their eyes... tavernier Jul 2016 #46
I'm feeling better now! unitedwethrive Jul 2016 #47
Online poll. Not my first choice, honestly. lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #48
That VA poll was taken July 26-27. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #50
http://www.electoral-vote.com much more reliable lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #49
Great. So it's time to stop sniping at the Sanders people. The holdouts are coming around. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #51
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. If that poll has accuracy...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jul 2016

It shows the exact opposite of a lack of enthusiasm with respect to wanting to get to the polls. The first metric at the poll result link is huge.

How likely are you to vote? Absolutely Certain: 83%
Probably: 8%

Third party on the left: 2%
Right: 7%

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
4. In one poll
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jul 2016

by a somewhat unknown pollster.

For the same reasons we shouldn't panic when polls show Hillary behind, it's dumb to get all excited over any single poll result, especially one without a trend line from a lesser known firm.

She's gonna get a bounce and we wil know what it is in three days or so.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
10. Right we are seeing some polls now that should be viewed with credulousness
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jul 2016

Hillary up 9 in PA? I live her, I feel pretty good she will win, but 9 points right now? AND, in this poll, they have McGinty up 7 on Toomey for Senate that is just completely unbelievable. It would be big news if she was up at all, she simply is not up 7.

There was Missouri poll on Tuesday that had Trump up 10, one on Thursday Hill up 1. Again, I am skeptical she has a lead there.

As usual, gotta work from the people who combine all the data with a good formula.

To your point,I have been saying all along, Hill up or town, gotta wait until about two weeks after Philly before we can really get an idea of where things are.

NNadir

(33,517 posts)
21. I don't know if that's possible, but the honor of our country demands this small minded man be...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jul 2016

...resoundingly defeated. His mere existence on a national ticket has already damaged our country.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
11. The 10 point bounce
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jul 2016

The bounce is more important that the 15 point lead. She got a 7 point bounce in Reuters already and that will go up. Could be a full 10 point bounce across all the polls.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
14. Anyone know anything about this pollster?
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jul 2016

Reuters has Hillary tied with Trump when you include third party candidates. I suspect she'll get a bounce but not a huge one. I'd like to see her with a 3-4 point lead by the end of next week.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
17. Thank goodness!
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jul 2016

This is great news! I hope it carries through to November! I'll be so disgusted if Trump even makes it close.

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
18. This is positive news, but please folks, don't get complacent...the race is still 100 days away
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jul 2016

While this is certainly very good news, polls rise and fall. There's a lot of sinister activity going on this election and we must not get complacent or take the polls too seriously. We must work doggedly through (and beyond) election day.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
28. Sage advice
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jul 2016

The Republicans will pour a token few hundred million into Trump's campaign. NOT because they think he has a ghost of winning, but to distract from close Senate, House and Statehouse races that they think they CAN win that they would lose if they concentrate heavily on the race for the White House.

We can't just get smug for one--or ANY--race. This year, they're ALL important.
It will be more so in two years. Make no mistake bout this. This is no 3 month campaign.

This time, it's a 27 month campaign. We cannot afford to forget what happened in 2010, and Citizens United will not be repealed in two weeks after inauguration day. Citizens United is what is keeping the Republican Party on life support, and no one knows it more than they do.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
20. I'm so glad. I thought she did a wonderful job!
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jul 2016

She can sound geeky because she's been a policy wonk for years, but I really thought the speech showed how dedicated she is to public service.

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
22. I love the RuPuke assessment
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jul 2016

"Tim Albrecht, a Republican partner with RABA Research. 'All of the speakers at her convention this week have day jobs and cannot devote all of their time helping to prop her up on the campaign trail'."

Because we know Chachi and Antonio Sabato Jr don't have jobs and have nothing but time. Plus the Trumplings can get a note from Dad to take off work.

I guess we should just give up now. Lol.

Bigredhunk

(1,349 posts)
26. & yet
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jul 2016

I flip on MSNBC just now and it's a drumpf rally...the graphic onscreen reads: "Clinton Losing Among White Men W/Out College Education" - or some such thing. How about "drumpf is losing among educated voters" -or- "drumpf is losing among every other group" -or- what "drumpf needs to do to beat Hillary." Everything is about what Hil needs to do. Let's talk about 0% from African Americans for drumpf. That's pretty newsworthy, no?

LW1977

(1,234 posts)
32. F**k M$NBc! They interviewed Jill Stein during their DNC coverage.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jul 2016

I get my news from online sources like here, crooks and liars and daily kos. 24 hour cable "news channels can go f**k themselves!

LW1977

(1,234 posts)
30. What the hell is going on at fivethirtyeight?
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 04:02 PM
Jul 2016

Every time I logged into the projects page of theirs, the race keeps tightening, thet are only a percentage point away from one and other!

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
42. No, he's just using a very reactionary model for the Nowcast
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jul 2016

The Polls Plus is the model to watch. That is the one most likely to be accurate.

The Nowcast has a huge LOESS curve that is intentionally reactionary and includes all kinds of data that likely won't matter in November.

The Polls Only and Polls Plus models are much better. The Nowcast is basically for shits and giggles.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
43. Yes, and he invented the Nowcast model this cycle to put eyes on glass.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jul 2016

He knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he created this model. It creates buzz and both sides give it a click.

Cha-ching.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
44. +1, His "now cast" bullshit is too subjective... no fuzzy logic even used just someones opinion base
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:35 PM
Jul 2016

... based on recent news and other stupid shit.

Now that there are other polls using a similar model to his from a couple of years ago he has to delineate his... he can use tighter scoring etc but he decided to go to click bate model.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
38. I think we're still seeing
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jul 2016

Post convention numbers for the maggot. It's only been a week. Next week should look better.

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
41. That's the difference between National polling -vs- State polling
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jul 2016

Trump is winning in a lot of big states. Texas, Florida, Ohio

However, a lot of 538's polls are over a month old.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
45. +1, "...However, a lot of 538's polls are over a month old..." I don't know what's up with Silver
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jul 2016

... on that, his scoring model for the polls still hasn't tightened either.

HUG MOE polls still get scored high

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
34. That convention hit Trump
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 04:10 PM
Jul 2016

night after night in subtle ways and calm, explicit, reasoned ways, all delivered
by political stars

It was like broadside after broadside by Admiral Nelson's warship Victory at Trafalgar

Keep going, the Democratic Party has been waiting a long time for this opportunity

IF that bounce is 80% accurate we are in good shape at this point

But always, keep working, don't relent, the proof is on Nov 8

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
46. I still say, Don't wait till you see the whites of their eyes...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jul 2016

Fire Fire Fire Fire and Keep Firing!!

lindysalsagal

(20,682 posts)
48. Online poll. Not my first choice, honestly.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jul 2016

Not saying it's wrong, but not overjoyed, either. Plus, the next poll puts fRump up in Virginia. Not good news.

SunSeeker

(51,551 posts)
50. That VA poll was taken July 26-27.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 04:06 AM
Jul 2016

Kaine's speech was the evening of the 27th. Hillary's was on the 28th. So that poll doesn't really take into account the bounce Hillary got from the convention, nor Kaine's speech.

lindysalsagal

(20,682 posts)
49. http://www.electoral-vote.com much more reliable
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:33 PM
Jul 2016

And right now, even if fRump got all 47 of the tie votes, he still loses. Remember that the popular vote doesn't matter.

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