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RandySF

(58,797 posts)
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:45 PM Jul 2016

TPM: Understanding the Trump-Khan War

You will never win a fight savaging the parents of a dead soldier. So it's a fight you simply don't engage in. A smart terrible person would get this and say something along the lines of the quote I noted above. Trump doesn't seem terribly bright. But this isn't about intelligence as we test it with logic puzzles. Realizing that this would be the only way to respond requires a level of self-awareness a narcissist lacks and a degree of impulse control Trump simply does not have. Empathy or any moral consciousness would get you there too. But remember, we're focusing here on the difference between a smart terrible person and a dumb terrible person both of which lack those qualities.

When Khizr Khan and his wife Ghazala appeared at the Democratic convention they attacked and shamed Trump. He no doubt experienced it that way and the chorus of approbation the Khans received from virtually every part of the political spectrum deepened his sense of humiliation and loss of status and standing. As I've noted in so many contexts, the need to assert dominance is at the root of all of Trump's actions. His whole way of understanding the world is one made up of dominators and the dominated. There's no infinite grey middle ground, where most of us live the vast majority of our human relationships. That's why even those who are conspicuously loyal are routinely humiliated in public. In that schema, Trump simply had no choice but to lash out, to rebalance the equation of dominance in his favor. It's an impulse that goes beyond reason or any deliberation. That's what left so many would-be or maybe allies flabbergasted at how or why he would have walked straight into such a buzzsaw of outrage.

For a narcissist like Trump, the rage and emotional disequilibrium of being dominated, humiliated is simply too much to bear. He must lash out. What he said in one of his tweets responding to the Khans is perhaps the most telling. "I was viciously attacked by Mr. Khan at the Democratic Convention. Am I not allowed to respond?" The use of the adverb "viciously" is a good tell that Trump is a narcissist. But setting that aside, most people would know that the answer is "No, you're not." Certainly you're not allowed to respond in the sense of attacking back. Their son died serving the country. You don't get to attack them. Someone with a moral consciousness who is capable to empathy would understand this through a moral prism. A smart terrible person would understand it as a matter of pragmatism. Smart terrible people spend time to understand human behavior, even if the moral dimension of it is invisible to them or a matter of indifference. Just as importantly, they have impulse control.

A smart terrible person can be an effective, even a good leader, if the interests of the country line up with his or her personal interests. I'm not advising it. But it's possible. Indeed, history shows various examples of it. But a dumb terrible person is almost always dangerous. Trump's mix of rage and insecurity are so unbridled that it is not simply that he is unable to protect others from their impact. He cannot even protect himself from the damage they create.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/understanding-the-trump-khan-war

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longship

(40,416 posts)
1. Josh nails it.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jul 2016

TPM is a great resource.

Here's Khan's DNC Speech.


It's worth viewing if you haven't.

On edit: woops! Fixed.

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
2. Oh, you're allowed to respond, Donald.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jul 2016

As long as you are prepared to accept all the negative consequences of such a response. Donald's not really a consequence-accepting kind of guy.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. "You will never win a fight savaging the parents of a dead soldier."
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:00 AM
Aug 2016

Unless they are Muslims.

Are you aware of what the Trump fans are saying about him these days?

Here's the short version: They are claiming he is a Muslim Brotherhood operative.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
11. Yes, but fortunately the hardcore Drumpf supporters makes up only about 25% of Republicans, and you
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:04 AM
Aug 2016

can't win a presidential election with those numbers.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
6. This story could have played out by Mid-morning on Friday
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:37 AM
Aug 2016

Instead, Trump has turned it into a defining moment that could reverberate for more than 100 days.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
7. I have been wondering about this. There was speaker after speaker at the DNC....
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:44 AM
Aug 2016

...and a lot of them "viciously" attacked Trump. Did he take down every speaker who spoke out against him? I'm not saying he didn't respond to others, but he must have skipped quite a few. Why not skip Khan?

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
8. Because the Khans are immigrants and Muslims, that's why.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:56 AM
Aug 2016

Trump couldn't cope with a takedown from the likes of Mr. Khan, because Trump is a racist, xenophobic, white supremacist PIG.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
10. this makes sense
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:40 AM
Aug 2016

and it explains his popularity with certain people - those who need to be dominated to feel safe.

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