2016 Postmortem
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Shannon Dingle, a self-proclaimed pro-life advocate, mother and Christian speaker publicly stated on her website that she will be voting for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Rodham Clinton.
[What has changed?] Well, nothing in my stance toward abortion. Im still opposed to it. But since Roe v. Wade, most Republicans have talked a lot about abortion while doing little to make meaningful change in that area of policy. Furthermore, theyve opposed or even stalled measures that could prevent abortions by targeting the underlying causes, like poverty, education, lack of access to healthcare, and supports for single parent and low-income families.
(P)ro-life cant just be about ensuring that babies are born without also affirming their value after birth through our words, actions, and policies.
Just as Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK dont represent me as a Christian, and the worst offenders of any demographic arent representative of the whole either. And she believes Trumps plans for immigrants are beyond absurd. She got to know and taught many immigrants who came to the US in hopes of a better life and says she would break any law to flee for the wellbeing of myself and my children.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/08/05/1557200/-Christian-pro-life-mom-I-m-voting-for-Hillary-Here-s-why
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Is this really happening? People on the right coming to their senses? I'm loving it.
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)and she's making it clear that the hypocrisy in the republican 'pursuit' of prolife is a fraud
brer cat
(24,576 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)and have been saying for years. It is really exceptional that she didn't leave it for people to assume hers was just another protest vote against Trump. I love that she spelled it out. It is such a common sense POV yet the entire republican party refutes its legitimacy.
LisaM
(27,813 posts)One of the things that I most dislike about the Bush family is that they are personally pro-choice, but had no qualms about using it as a wedge issue and tinkering with Roe v. Wade and other women's health issues.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Including some pretty high-profile ones.
Perhaps many more than most of us expect.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)Back in December, I asked my sister what in the hell she was going to do if Trump was the Republican nominee. She didn't hesitate even a little bit...just said she'd hold her nose and vote for Hillary. If it was Bernie, she'd stay home, or vote 3rd party. We all know rational Republicans. Even a few hard right, I'll bet. And Trump scares the hell out of them. They may not put a bumper sticker on their car, or put up a yard sign, they'll even piss and moan about how much they hate her. But when they finish rolling their eyes, on election day, they'll quietly vote for Hillary.
creoledna
(40 posts)Unreal......
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)The rot needs to be removed.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)I read an article about a month ago about how young evangelical women were voting for Hillary as well. It was about how Hillary represents the greater good for women overall. Ya just gotta love it.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... the GOP.
Good she notices it
calimary
(81,306 posts)She DOES get it. It's not just about the embryo or fetus. It's about supporting the mother and the POST-birth baby when that support is desperately needed. Unfortunately, the CONS tend to get out their cutting tools to cut funding and support programs as soon as that baby's born.
This is GREAT to see. VERY encouraging. If you're REALLY "pro-life," then it stands to reason that you need to be pro-child and family supports, pro-school supports, pro-food-, shelter-, and health care supports. You need to be pro-job supports and decent pay and equal pay supports so that single parent or two-parent structure can afford to raise that child.
And you URGENTLY need to be pro-reality about climate change. Because our earth supports us all.
IronLionZion
(45,450 posts)for those who might be interested in more info about liberal Christians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_left
https://www.facebook.com/TheChristianLeft/
The Christian Left Possibly the Most Interesting Group Youve Never Heard Of
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelle-tang/the-christian-leftpossibl_b_8270596.html
Can the Christian Left Be a Real Political Force?
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/cover_story/2016/05/how_liberal_christians_can_turn_the_democrats_into_the_party_of_god.html
The Christian right has been trying to recruit minorities but Trump has completely ruined that effort for at least a generation. The left welcomes all types of people.
Love Trumps Hate!
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)never anti-abortion. That puts them squarely into the RW camp.
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)that IS how absolutely, completely insane the thought of his being President of the United States is.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)but to help living babies thrive.
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)or carry to birth an infant who will live an excruciating few hours of pain before certainly dying or...
Hekate
(90,714 posts)....without us insisting on some utter purity test. In red districts, I'm only too happy to support Blue Dog Democrats to get to the House and Senate.
Shannon woke up -- others can too.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)It's kind of crazy, but when you think about it, only a creep of Dumpf magnitude could wake a lot of folks up.
For those of us who knew all these things decades ago, it's worse than infuriating.....
But at least some of the blind are letting in a little light. Finally.
3catwoman3
(24,006 posts)Hell IS freezing over, and pigs DO fly!
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)He's so awful, people are coming to their senses, I hope.
Bob Buttons
(51 posts)... he just implied they would vote for *him*
Bob Buttons
(51 posts)Dingle expands upon her belief that that pro-life should also apply to:
The lives of people with disabilities
The lives of women
The lives of immigrants
The lives of racial and ethnic minorities
The lives of religious minorities
The lives of the LGBTQ+ communities
The lives of those with HIV/AIDS here and around the world
The lives of our armed forces
The lives of those killed by gun violence
Wow, what a refreshing, unexpected, logical argument. (Now if only pro-lifers would support access to contraceptives for everyone, I think they might be on to something.)
After reading the rest of the article, I'm wondering how many people out there identify as pro-life and have a logical approach like this woman does. If you think about it through the lens of ratings-driven news reporting, where sane folks are considered boring and crazy sells, seems to me the logical conclusion is that maybe we're less divided than we think, on yet one more issue.
BlueCollar
(3,859 posts)Ms. Dingle gets it. Hopefully she will be safe after stating her opinions.
I fear for the safety of women who stand up today.
The American Taliban are everywhere.