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rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:39 PM Aug 2016

Questions raised about Melania's marriage history (Univision)

In an interview with Larry King Live in 2005 Melania Trump said that she had never been married before meeting Donald Trump.

But, Michael Wildes, an immigration attorney who worked for the Trump Organization, told Univision's investigative unit that she obtained a green card four years earlier in 2001, “based on marriage.”


http://www.univision.com/univision-news/politics/questions-raised-about-melanias-marriage-history

This is just breaking. Batten down the hatches. Could be bulllshit. Could be yuuuuge.

Never forget this bastard was a leading birther.

Also covered at:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-report-raises-questions-about-melania-trumps-past-green-card-status/

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290608-immigration-lawyer-raises-questions-about-melania-trumps

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/trump-lawyer-turned-hillary-backer-melania-had-green-card-from-prior-marriage/
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Questions raised about Melania's marriage history (Univision) (Original Post) rjsquirrel Aug 2016 OP
Smells like a Texas National Guard Memo jberryhill Aug 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #18
Then prove it or disprove it jberryhill Aug 2016 #19
Next, we'll hear that she was listed on one of those Russian Wedding sites, for loser Americans. TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #40
Oops! stopbush Aug 2016 #2
Her story really isn't important. madaboutharry Aug 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #4
We'll see. madaboutharry Aug 2016 #5
Not to his followers. being rich and getting a hot, gold-digging, trophy wife is their goal in life. TeamPooka Aug 2016 #8
So true kimbutgar Aug 2016 #42
grrrr let humiliate this guy at the polls in Nov. TeamPooka Aug 2016 #43
I'm with you. I retweeted every article and underthematrix Aug 2016 #6
You can believe she is from Mars jberryhill Aug 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #17
Are your investigators back from New York jberryhill Aug 2016 #20
President Obama provided documentation in the form of his Hawaii long form birth certificate underthematrix Aug 2016 #44
Leave the lady alone. Family should be off limits . . . brush Aug 2016 #7
Thank you. It just seems childish to me. n/t vaberella Aug 2016 #10
Wait, plagiarism is ok to discuss rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #13
We're beating the orange one's ass without that. brush Aug 2016 #24
We are this week rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #25
It will not make a difference to Trump voters csziggy Aug 2016 #32
I saw that guy too jberryhill Aug 2016 #34
Yes, this is not worth trying to push even if true csziggy Aug 2016 #38
No, they wouldn't leave it alone jberryhill Aug 2016 #33
I get your point. I'm still not comfortable with it as many other immigrants are here . . . brush Aug 2016 #35
Lock Her Up! LOL redstateblues Aug 2016 #29
"Deport her!" Works for me rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #30
Adult family members committing fraud are NOT off limits. Trump may have enabled this too. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #36
How is this relevant? What does this have to do w/ the election & Trump as a political figure. n/t vaberella Aug 2016 #9
The main focus of the Trump campaign is immigration so it's very relevant. Vinca Aug 2016 #12
I tend to agree with you Vinca. Ilsa Aug 2016 #14
There's no way he doesn't know her story rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #16
That's so disgusting. Ilsa Aug 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #15
Do you see a problem with a divorced actor running on "family values" jberryhill Aug 2016 #21
Whut? rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #22
I see a lot of problems with Trump jberryhill Aug 2016 #31
It's simply scrutiny that Trump has invited Ilsa Aug 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #27
There seems to be some immigration fraud here. The kind that TRUMP RANTS against. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #37
I heard.... Aviation Pro Aug 2016 #28
Some people are saying that rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #39
Now if she was previously married legally Zorro Aug 2016 #41
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. Smells like a Texas National Guard Memo
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:42 PM
Aug 2016

The best way to deal with whether she worked on a tourist visa in 1995 is to float a bullshit story, debunk the bullshit one, and thus end the discussion.

Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
19. Then prove it or disprove it
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:00 AM
Aug 2016

You have a "source" who quit talking. Marriage records are pretty easy to search.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
3. Her story really isn't important.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:43 PM
Aug 2016

It may show a lack of veracity, but in the scheme of things it's just noise. What is important is that her BARKING MAD husband loses the election and that Hillary becomes president.

Response to madaboutharry (Reply #3)

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
5. We'll see.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:57 PM
Aug 2016

If it goes beyond the original story from yesterday about doing modeling work in 1995, then it could be something..

TeamPooka

(24,223 posts)
8. Not to his followers. being rich and getting a hot, gold-digging, trophy wife is their goal in life.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:18 AM
Aug 2016

a lot of them anyway.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
42. So true
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:38 AM
Aug 2016

I encountered a guy on Facebook that said he likes Cheeto because he likes looking at his wife and then he made a disparaging remark about Michelle Obama.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
6. I'm with you. I retweeted every article and
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:07 AM
Aug 2016

will do everything I can to keep this story alive until they explain Melania's immigration history and how she was able to obtain a green card which is extremely hard to get. I believe she was married before as the attorney stated and I believe it was a green card marriage.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. You can believe she is from Mars
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 05:59 AM
Aug 2016

...and you have as much evidence for that proposition as well.

This will be perceived as attacking his wife. She's not the issue.

This thing has "free birdseed" written all over it.

Response to jberryhill (Reply #11)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. Are your investigators back from New York
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:02 AM
Aug 2016

The evidence that Melania married previously is exactly as impressive as the evidence Obama was born in Kenya.

There is no evidence supporting your claim. Zero.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
44. President Obama provided documentation in the form of his Hawaii long form birth certificate
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 01:56 AM
Aug 2016

which required a state bill to allow release. Birtherism was grounded in racism.

This push is based on the candidates stated and repeatedly stated policy positions. It is an appropriate area of inquiry.

Trump has made illegal immigration his issue and berated and maligned whole groups of Americans and undocumented persons. Yes, we should explore this to nth degree because of his stated policies positions on immigration.

Trump should so what President Obama did provide documentation.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
25. We are this week
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:44 AM
Aug 2016

If this story is true it is devastating for him with his own base. We might win 40 states.

Proceed as if it's a trap and be careful. But "off limits" because of "decency" is crazy. If Michelle Obama had committed a felony in her 20s you think they'd leave it alone?

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
32. It will not make a difference to Trump voters
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:54 AM
Aug 2016

In fact I caught a piece of an interview with one yesterday. The reporter asked a man waiting for a Trump rally if it made a difference to him that Melania may have not followed immigration laws. He said it didn't because she is from Europe. The reporter asked if he meant because she was white and the man just looked at the reporter as if to say "What do you think?"

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
34. I saw that guy too
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:59 AM
Aug 2016

He added something like "I'm a fan of western civilization."

Trump leads Evangelicals. Do they care about his divorces? No. Do they care about Melania's prior career? No.

Racist xenophobes don't give a shit how Melania got here. She's white, she's married to him, and that's the end of it for them.

I do not understand the mindset that thinks there is someone who would be persuaded to vote for Hillary because of this kind of stuff.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
38. Yes, this is not worth trying to push even if true
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 10:20 AM
Aug 2016

Trump supporters and ICE do not care in light complexioned people violate immigration law. They never have and never will.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
33. No, they wouldn't leave it alone
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:56 AM
Aug 2016

Is the point to demonstrate that there is no difference between us and them, and that we can sink to their level with ease? Is that "winning"?

There is nothing that backs up this story. Nothing.

brush

(53,771 posts)
35. I get your point. I'm still not comfortable with it as many other immigrants are here . . .
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 10:07 AM
Aug 2016

undocumented as well.

If we go after her are we obligated to go after them too, and ironically, sorta make Trump's point?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
36. Adult family members committing fraud are NOT off limits. Trump may have enabled this too.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 10:07 AM
Aug 2016

Also, immigration is a family issue. Family values too.

Further, Trump attacks family members all the time. Gold Star family members too.

Trump is using Ambassador Stevens name and family even though the family has publicly implored him to stop on multiple occasions.

Show us the immigration forms!

Show us the tax returns!

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
12. The main focus of the Trump campaign is immigration so it's very relevant.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:22 AM
Aug 2016

Just as Trump's ties are not made in the U.S.A, Trump's wife may not have legitimately been allowed to stay in this country. I usually agree that spouses and children are off limits, but Trump doesn't hesitate for a second to bring up every Bill Clinton escapade and the only thing that is saving Chelsea is her friendship with Ivanka.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
14. I tend to agree with you Vinca.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:46 AM
Aug 2016

If immigration and calling immigrants criminals was still a speck of a thought in Trump's brain, I'd leave her alone. But if he's as hypocritical as to take his position that immigrants are thieves and rapists and drug pushers, then the immigrant in his family deserves looking at. He shouldn't criticize other people's spouses.

Maybe he didn't know her immigration history was so messed up. But he should not have held her up as an example of the proper way to immigrate.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
16. There's no way he doesn't know her story
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 08:19 AM
Aug 2016

This is a guy who makes his girlfriends get examinations from his own doctor for STDs.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
23. That's so disgusting.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:40 AM
Aug 2016

Just so HE doesn't have to bother with protection. Another point of narcissism.

I wish at least one of the women he bedded made him do the same. I bet he's passed along chlamydia, along with no telling what else. I wouldn't be surprised by a kharmic diagnosis of Dementia Secondary to Tertiary Syphyllis some day. I wouldn't want that for him, but it wouldn't surprise me after the way he's treated women, like objects for him to fuck.

Response to vaberella (Reply #9)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. Do you see a problem with a divorced actor running on "family values"
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:03 AM
Aug 2016

Explain how this persuades people to vote for Hillary
 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
22. Whut?
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:10 AM
Aug 2016

I see a problem with a man running an anti-immigrant campaign being married to an illegal immigrant, period.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
31. I see a lot of problems with Trump
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:53 AM
Aug 2016

But his supporters will not care.

In what way does this persuade anyone to vote for Hillary. Describe the person that this information, if true, would net a vote for our side.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
26. It's simply scrutiny that Trump has invited
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:44 AM
Aug 2016

into his own life.

I don't think anyone here would want to see Melania jailed for anything. But you can't get away with double-standards in politics, so it should be pointed out. He doesn't get a pass.

Response to vaberella (Reply #9)

Aviation Pro

(12,164 posts)
28. I heard....
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:49 AM
Aug 2016

...that there's a rumor that Barron may not have an ounce of Trump DNA in him. I don't believe that, but people are saying....

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
41. Now if she was previously married legally
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:23 AM
Aug 2016

was she also previously divorced legally? Inquiring minds want to know.

This is an excellent example of why Trump should not have insulted Jorge Ramos, who has focused on the immigration issue for the past several years.

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