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Related: About this forumWhat are they going on about the Tenth Amendment for?
Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association: "Republican governors using 10th Amendment as a firewall against central govt may be America's last hope."
Right-wing radio host Vicki McKenna: "Two words: TENTH AMENDMENT"
I can't follow the arcane workings inside their wacko, paranoid minds. Anyone have any insights on this?
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(52,243 posts)aletier_v
(1,773 posts)I was interested in the 10th Amendment movement in the early 90s,
and frankly I still think it might be a viable solution to the "Two Americas" problem we have now.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)They're stupid. They think that the tenth allows them to override or ignore Federal laws that they feel are unconstitutional. In reality, it only gives them jurisdiction over things that are not already specifically covered in the Constitution.
In the past couple years, in the knee jerk reactionary fashion of the foolish, several states passed tenth amendment or "sovereignty" laws so that they would not have to implement Obamacare or, in the case of the very dumbest, Shariah law that was never going to come. None of these laws matter because the Supreme Court in 1958 ruled that Federal law supersedes state law.
They are saying these things because they are idiots.
Sadly, it's also the tenth that is going to crash the party in Colorado and Washington.
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)I included the title so you can go read the full post if you so desire -
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Going Galt Without Secession
Posted on Thu Nov 08 2012 00:28:21 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time) by FortWorthPatriot
I just posted this on Facebook a couple of minutes ago. There is some talk of secession amongst some of my fellow Texans there. I wanted to put my post here as well to get opinions on it. Thank you for your patience.
It can be done. And we can Go Galt at the same time. The key to this is cutting off the east and west coast geographically while at the same time cutting off lines of trade and natural resources to the two coasts.
As Lois stated, we need to split the country in half, literally. In order to do this we would need an alliance of at least the following six states: Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, and North Dakota. These six states would create a geographical barrier between the east and west coasts of the United States from Canada to Mexico.
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It would be fitting if we could get seven (7) more states (Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Mississippi, Montana, Wyoming and Idaho) allied in the beginning as they are also part of flyover land and traditionally vote republican. This would give us 13 states in which the restoration of the United States would begin. Thirteen states. Fitting.
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Third, we set up a trade agreement between the Allied States and Canada and get that pipeline built. This would get Alaska into the Alliance if she hasnt already jumped on board by now. The only reason I havent so far included Alaska in this scenario is because she would be isolated from us and vulnerable, hence the need to get Canada on board with us. And I believe that Canada would help us as they understand they need the United States to protect them. They would also rather deal with common sense than with Washington. No need to trade with Mexico what do they have that we cant produce here?
What about the military? What if Washington decides to move troops against the Allied States? First, I think that if such an order were to be given a majority of military leaders would refuse to obey. As I said before, this action is not a revolution or secession I am not advocating an armed resistance against Washington. This is a passive act of ignoring the coasts in order to force them to realize that they need us to survive and that they will have to play ball our way in order to do so.
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MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)There is no way that this would ever happen. The red states are dependent on Federal dollars way more than the blue states. They talk about makers and takers without realizing that they are the takers.
Nothing is really surprising in that upside down world.