2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCohn - "Yes, Obama Won a Mandate"
Here is a nice refreshing article that pushes back on efforts to minimize the significance of the re-election of President Obama:
http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/109818/obama-wins-four-more-years-mandate-agenda-validation-obamacare#
Romney and the Republicans had turned the election into a referendum on liberalismnot just the liberalism of Obama, but also the liberalism of Johnson and Kennedy, of Truman and Roosevelt. They proposed massive, fundamental changes to the welfare state and wholesale rollbacks of womens rights, and challenged the philosophy behind such policiesthe whole idea that governments should act to protect vulnerable groups and to guarantee economic security.
It was a huge gambit. And it failed. But conservatives arent going to drop their agenda. Come January, Paul Ryan will be back in the House of Representatives, running the budget committee, and hell find plenty of allies on and off Capitol Hill. But proposals to make Medicare a voucher program, to decimate Medicaid and food stamps, to reduce federal spending by unprecedented incrementsthose proposals have almost no chance of becoming law, at least in the forseeable future.
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And the most recent addition to the welfare state, the signature accomplishment of Obamas term, isnt going anywhere, either. Ive waited more than two years to write this sentence: The Affordable Care Act is here to stay. It survived the Supreme Court and now it has survived the threat of a unified Republican government determined to repeal it. Implementation of the law will present huge challenges, but, for the first time in a long while, the administration and its allies can focus on those challenges rather than on rearguard political fights to keep the program alive.
Cha
(297,253 posts)an article like this with all those punditheads saying no "mandate". Who do they think they are?
President Obama and We The People will Decide that.
h/t http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1757566
Amonester
(11,541 posts)future pRo$pect$ coming their way.
That's why they don't want to risk alienating any of them as best as they can.
These know-nothing blowhards have nothing in common with 'journalism' nowadays.
They're only in it for the money (and they think we don't know it).
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)Obama won 332 (yes, I'm counting Florida) electoral votes to Romney's 206, and leads the popular vote (the margin will increase as final numbers come in) by more than 2 million votes (50% to 48%). That's a way bigger margin than many previous presidents
http://www.thenation.com/blog/171085/obama-bigger-win-kennedy-nixon-carter-bush-or-bush#
He won, and he won decisively. This is the same old thing they tried to do to Clinton: he didn't have a mandate, supposedly, because he didn't have a majority (only a plurality) of the votes in his three-way contests. Bull. When you win the election you have the mandate. Let me repeat to all those Republican (and not so Republican) pundits out there: he's the effing President of the United States. Get over it.
Cha
(297,253 posts)but is that stopping them from acting like they do?
It was a huge gambit. And it failed. But conservatives arent going to drop their agenda. Come January, Paul Ryan will be back in the House of Representatives, running the budget committee, and hell find plenty of allies on and off Capitol Hill. But proposals to make Medicare a voucher program, to decimate Medicaid and food stamps, to reduce federal spending by unprecedented incrementsthose proposals have almost no chance of becoming law, at least in the forseeable future.
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)It's ultimately about projection.
For comparison, I think the margin between him and Romney is around 2.8 million so far. The margin between Bush and Kerry was 3,012,171. For Bush, that was a mandate. He called it political capital. Soon he went to throw it all away in a privatized social security blunder and Katrina. Hell he called a 550,000 loss in the popular vote, and a SC decision, a mandate for his agenda.
Even if Obama doesn't get the approximately 3 million margin as Bush vs. Kerry, he has still won many more electoral votes, which are ultimately what determines the winner anyways.
It was a decisive victory. We gained in the Senate and the House.
It IS a mandate.