2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFrom Nate Silver's Comments Section:
"Nate Silver is my statistician; I shall not fret.
He maketh me to lie down in blue states:
He leadeth me beside the bicoastal urban elites.
He restoreth my faith in the electoral college:
He leadeth me in the path of accuracy for his name brands sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of Diebold,
I will fear no recounts: For he is with me;
His blog and his stats, they comfort me.
He preparest a table of odds before me in the presence of partisan hacks;
He filleth my head with possible outcomes; My brain bloweth up.
Surely middle class tax relief and affordable health care shall follow me all the days of my life,
and Obama will dwell in the House of White for the next four years."
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/06/live-blog-the-2012-presidential-election/
jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)Good poem amborin, appropriate for this election, but you know how dicey polls get so that one is up this year poor the next;
.. here is a report of the most accurate polling, and of all things happy for dems add another, democratic produced poll 'Public Policy Polling (PPP), was rated MOST ACCURATE, hip hip hoorah!
Fordham University has published a ranking of the most accurate pollsters of the 2012 in terms of national trends, and (both) top spots were held by Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling, the North Carolina-based firm.
.. More happy news! out of 28 polls, only 3 were worse than rasmussen & gallup! Rass & Gallup tied for 24th most accurate! erk, shouldn't that be 'least accurate'?????? hahaahaha, go soak your head scott rasmussen, pollrigger extraordinaire!
.. liberal CBS did well too, and NBC, but let's tip the hat to conservative IBD (internat business daily).. associated press was worst, yet I consider them reputable, unbiased, so up one year down the next....
Most Accurate Polls 2012 election:
1. PPP (D)*
tie.. 1. Daily Kos/SEIU/PPP*
3. YouGov* English based, UK
4. Ipsos/Reuters*
5. Purple Strategies
6. NBC/WSJ
6. CBS/NYT
6. YouGov/Economist
9. UPI/CVOTER
10. IBD/TIPP
11. Angus-Reid*
12. ABC/WP*
13. Pew Research*
13. Hartford Courant/UConn*
15. CNN/ORC
15. Monmouth/SurveyUSA
15. Politico/GWU/Battleground
15. FOX News
15. Washington Times/JZ Analytics [old Zogby]
15. Newsmax/JZ Analytics [again, zogby]
15. American Research Group
15. Gravis Marketing
23. Democracy Corps (D)* .. oh well, it's what I said above
24. Rasmussen
24. Gallup
26. NPR
27. National Journal*
28. AP/GfK
[link:http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/fordham-study-public-policy-polling-deemed-most-accurate|
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/fordham-study-public-policy-polling-deemed-most-accurate]
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)ywcachieve
(365 posts)jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)Another thing, if anyone's seen the late not so great tv show 'Vote America 2012' starring Monty Torres, rightwing subtle spinmeister extraordinaire. It was good in that it was a source for current polls, but it subtly supported romney, portraying him in a better light than obama, & vicy versy. Torres is a graduate of brigham young uni in utah I believe, so pretty obviously/probably a rightwinger.
Monty almost always pointed out that PPP was a democrat produced poll when they had results in obama's favor, as well as cbs being liberal station sometimes, while monty never once that I saw said that rasmussen was a rightwing based pollster, nor fox was the rightwing tv station of america (tho actually I think fox polls are fairly credible - fox poll finished middling 15th I think).
So goodbye to monty torres & 'vote america 2012', and hello to schadenfreude to boot, since monty's complaint on PPP falls pretty flat when you consider PPP was most accurate, eh, monty torres?
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)but then... I'm a geek.