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Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 03:16 AM Aug 2016

Brexit, Russia Today (RT) and Comrade Jill Stein, willing tool of a fascist autocrat.

Last edited Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:21 PM - Edit history (1)



Stein in Moscow
Jill Stein appeared to take immense enjoyment at engaging in her usual shtick of attacking our country and President Obama while she was in Moscow last winter, having a lovely dinner with Vladimir Putin and Trump's military advisor, Michael Flynn. Just look at that smile! She seems so pleased with herself. Very nice comrade!



Trump's guy Flynn is in the tux, seated to Putin's right. Stein is wearing a grey sweater.

Invited to speak by Putin's mouthpiece, RT or "Russia Today," Stein herself reports in a video she posted to YouTube that she used the opportunity to criticize US foreign policy and human rights. She apparently declined to bring up Putin and Russia's brutal record on human rights; killing journalists, poisoning dissenters, supporting chemical warfare, and the continued criminalization and state-sanctioned brutality and discrimination against the LGBT citizens of Russia and the Ukraine. Well done comrade!

http://americablog.com/2016/08/jill-stein-moscow-criticized-us-human-rights-said-nothing-russian-human-rights.html


Stein Campaign Ads
So much of what comrade Stein is up to these days points far away from any real concern for a progressive agenda, and more towards doing the bidding of Vladimir Putin and his fondest admirer, Donald Trump.

Stein's advertisements are concerned primarily with spreading lies and smears about our Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton; the only person who can keep Trump out of the White House and our country moving forward on the path of progress. In Stein's ads, the Putin-loving Trump is dismissed quite briefly as kind of a goof who has said terrible things, while HRC is instead painted as the baby-killing harbinger of the end of all life on the planet.

An Open Secrets report dated July 21 states that Stein had a mere $235,000 cash on hand and owed herself $40,000. But lately she's been running a string of ads seen across the country on both CNN and MSNBC. Who is paying for those ads?

It seems only prudent to consider who the ads will benefit the most. Next year, one of two people will be sworn into office. Hillary Rodham Clinton or Putin-loving Donald Trump. Even comrade Stein isn't so stupid as to believe she will win the election. Stein's commercials are clearly designed to weaken HRC, and as such have but one electoral goal - the election of Donald Trump.


Putin, Brexit, and How RT hearts Stein
When Great Britain made the shocking decision to leave the EU, Stein proclaimed the bigotry-driven Brexit an awesome victory! before she scrubbed her praiseful words and said she was against it.
www.forwardprogressives.com/green-party-jill-stein-busted-cover-up-praise-bigotry-driven-brexit/

Hmmm, that's weird. Why was she so happy about the Brexit passing? A weakened EU is beneficial to Putin, and it seems his network, RT did all they could to encourage the "leave" vote, while Putin himself of course, feigned neutrality.
While it is true that Russian state officials have carefully avoided any public comment, there is a clear pattern of agitation for withdrawal from the EU on Russia’s state-owned, English-language news outlets Russia Today, a television network, and Sputnik, a news site.

Analysis of recent news stories shows a clear bias towards quoting anti-EU campaigners in articles that claim to show balance. One news story quotes extreme right-wing Polish politician Janusz Korwin-Mikke, who says Britain would be right to leave the EU. (He also offers his support for Trump because “Clinton is supported by the Jews.”)

www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/08/why-putin-is-meddling-in-britain-s-brexit-vote.html

Comrade Stein is a familiar and regular guest on Putin's RT, where she enjoys fawning coverage of her rants against Hillary Clinton and her endless criticisms of the United States. RT speaks of Stein and the Greens in glowing and hopeful tones, stating that they are headed for "an historic election," while running headlines about Hillary Clinton like "NY Primary fraud details revealed, Hillary’s Money laundering," "Hillary is used to beating, kicking and abusing her own husband" and "Trump outflanks Hillary after Republican convention."

RT even hosted the Green Party "Presidential debates." I apologize for having no quotes from those debates, but truthfully, I'd rather chew on glass than watch that drivel.
www.rt.com/usa/342395-green-party-rt-debate/


Jill and Putin, Sittin' in a Tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g!
Jill Stein repeatedly claims she is not beholden to corporate interests. It has become remarkably clear however, who exactly she does seem beholden to. Her cozy and close relationship to Putin (the ultimate 1%er) and RT, her reticence to level any serious criticisms of Donald Trump, and her vicious, seething attacks against Hillary show her for what she really is. Jill Stein is the willing tool of a fascist autocrat; working to elect Donald Trump. And thus, henceforth, she will always be to me, Comrade Stein.





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Brexit, Russia Today (RT) and Comrade Jill Stein, willing tool of a fascist autocrat. (Original Post) Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 OP
K R. Incredible. I wonder if we'll ever know how much Russian money went to her campaign uhnope Aug 2016 #1
We know for sure that Putin funded the National Front in France frazzled Aug 2016 #16
Somehow I don't think illegal is particularly worrisome to Putin Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #19
But it would be worrisome to the candidates or parties accepting the money frazzled Aug 2016 #20
It should be worrisome, but I think Stein is too intoxicated with the attentions she has received Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #26
Wow, I never thought I'd see cold war red baiting on DU, especially in 2016 Feeling the Bern Aug 2016 #2
for a second there I couldn't tell you were joking n/t uhnope Aug 2016 #4
Too bad it's all true, right? EricMaundry Aug 2016 #5
what does FTB mean? n/t uhnope Aug 2016 #6
The poster being responded to is called "Feeling the Bern?" Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #41
ok thx. I imagined something else n/t uhnope Aug 2016 #44
No worries! It sailed right over my head too! Till I looked up some acronyms and saw "feel the burn" Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #45
Wow. . .a Phil Ochs insult. Sad great liberal singers like Ochs, Chapin, Seeger and Guthrie get Feeling the Bern Aug 2016 #12
Your associating them with Putin's messenger girl is hardly a compliment EricMaundry Aug 2016 #18
"Red baiting" might apply if Putin were a communist, socialist or even a liberal. pampango Aug 2016 #7
Agreed rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #11
" Comrade Jill Stein" - the op. Warren Stupidity Aug 2016 #13
I say "comrade Trump" all the time, tovarish rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #14
and the Communists of the past became the Fascists of today. n/t uhnope Aug 2016 #17
Putin was never actually a Communist obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #24
Oh good gawd Warren. Remind me again which primary Comrade Stein was in? Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #21
It's not classic red baiting. You're looking for a reason to call it that in order to dismiss the stevenleser Aug 2016 #32
I expected it to be attacked as "red-baiting." It's the quickest, and laziest way to Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #37
It doesn't fit the definition of "classic red-bating." LanternWaste Aug 2016 #35
As Pampago indicated, you're not seeing cold war red baiting here. stevenleser Aug 2016 #10
Except Putin is a fascist and corrupt as hell obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #23
I believe he forgot his sarcams tag? I took it as parody? Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #28
Wow, I never thought I'd read someone so glaringly misuse "red-bating" on DU LanternWaste Aug 2016 #34
Propaganda dupe Stein NBachers Aug 2016 #3
Bargle swap Flanders! Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #36
Plus ça change... Alkene Aug 2016 #8
See Pampangos #7. nt stevenleser Aug 2016 #9
Hands down the laziest way to attempt to dismiss the content, and uncomfortable revelations Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #40
We know the love Drumpf professes for Russia and Putin KewlKat Aug 2016 #15
Comrade Stein probably has her own coffee mug at RT, she's there so often. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #25
With General effing Flynn obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #22
Yup. Dead animals around her neck when she professes vegetarianism Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #27
K/R Old and In the Way Aug 2016 #29
I think the whole Trump campaign is a Putin Op workinclasszero Aug 2016 #30
Plenty on the American left embrace Russia. Adrahil Aug 2016 #31
Yep, Orwell called it Negative Nationalism. stevenleser Aug 2016 #33
Like Stein's (haha) "VP" selection, who calls Sanders' supporters "white supremacists" Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #39
And yet... wysi Aug 2016 #38
I imagine they'll keep trying in unclever and utterly transparent ways to tell us Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #42
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2016 #43
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
1. K R. Incredible. I wonder if we'll ever know how much Russian money went to her campaign
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:22 AM
Aug 2016

beside all the free stuff, like hosting the "debates" and flying her to Moscow.

Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
19. Somehow I don't think illegal is particularly worrisome to Putin
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:18 PM
Aug 2016

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I'm sure if RT is funding the Green party ads, they will go to some effort to hide it. Stein has not demonstrated herself to be particularly clever though, so I wouldn't bet on the long-term success of such efforts, if she is knowledgeable about their specifics.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
20. But it would be worrisome to the candidates or parties accepting the money
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:38 PM
Aug 2016

They could land in prison on federal charges.

In a terse four words, the Supreme Court on Monday issued an order upholding prohibitions against foreigners making contributions to influence American elections.

The decision clamped shut an opening that some thought the court had created two years ago in its Citizens United decision, when it relaxed campaign-finance limits on corporations and labor unions. On Monday the Supreme Court, upholding a lower court’s decision in Bluman, et al., v. Federal Election Commission, refused to extend its reasoning in Citizens United to cover foreigners living temporarily here.

Foreign nationals, other than lawful permanent residents, are completely banned from donating to candidates or parties, or making independent expenditures in federal, state or local elections.


The Supreme Court’s order did not discuss the merits or suggest that there was any dissent among the justices.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/supreme-court-retains-ban-on-foreign-campaign-donations/

Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
26. It should be worrisome, but I think Stein is too intoxicated with the attentions she has received
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:25 PM
Aug 2016

from Mr. Putin and his network to exercise due caution.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
2. Wow, I never thought I'd see cold war red baiting on DU, especially in 2016
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:35 AM
Aug 2016

All I hear is Phil Ochs in my mind "love me, I'm a liberal."

New lyrics for this post

I read Mother Jones and Nation and learned to accept every view
I love me some Bernie Sanders, especially now that the race is through
But when it comes to Stein and Snowden, there's no one more red, white and blue

So love me, love me, love me. . .I'm a liberal

 

EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
5. Too bad it's all true, right?
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 05:34 AM
Aug 2016

FTB - Of course, in a case like this you wouldn't want to bring up anything but ancient memes from the groovy 60s.

Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
45. No worries! It sailed right over my head too! Till I looked up some acronyms and saw "feel the burn"
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:48 PM
Aug 2016


Sometimes my landing gear is a little slow, but it always makes it down eventually.
 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
12. Wow. . .a Phil Ochs insult. Sad great liberal singers like Ochs, Chapin, Seeger and Guthrie get
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 07:16 AM
Aug 2016

such shabby treatment these days.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. "Red baiting" might apply if Putin were a communist, socialist or even a liberal.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 06:04 AM
Aug 2016

He is none of those things. He is a right wing militarist who is friends with conservative politicians the world over. We need to 'get along' with Putin just as we do with many distasteful leaders around the world. That does not make him a liberal.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
11. Agreed
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 07:14 AM
Aug 2016

Red baiting is not a thing anymore.

Asserting treasonous relationships with hostile foreign powers however....

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
13. " Comrade Jill Stein" - the op.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 07:20 AM
Aug 2016

That is classic red baiting.

Its really peculiar that a certain set of DU members are just fixated on the irrelevant Stein and her irrelevant Green Party.

It is almost as if they are using this as a surrogate for continuing the primary wars.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
14. I say "comrade Trump" all the time, tovarish
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 07:26 AM
Aug 2016

There are almost no communists in Russia. The reference is sardonic.

I'm still anti-communist anyway.

Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
21. Oh good gawd Warren. Remind me again which primary Comrade Stein was in?
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:00 PM
Aug 2016

This has exactly Jack shit to do with any primaries. The primaries are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over. Bernie Sanders and Secretary Clinton are on the same side and he is doing an awesome and amazing job for our party.

Bernie Sanders is working hard to elect Hillary Rodham Clinton as President of the United States.

Russia Today, Vladimir Putin and Jill Stein are working together to attempt to elect Donald Trump. That is what this is about.

Red baiting? It is to laugh! Putin is not a communist or a socialist, and he's sure as hell no liberal. He's a violent, megalomaniacal despot. Most of us are not okay with him getting his polonium-stained fingers into our election, especially this one, and especially when 3-4% can mean everything in a swing state.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
32. It's not classic red baiting. You're looking for a reason to call it that in order to dismiss the
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:07 PM
Aug 2016

criticism of Stein.

Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
37. I expected it to be attacked as "red-baiting." It's the quickest, and laziest way to
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:53 PM
Aug 2016

attempt to dismiss the content, and the uncomfortable apparent facts about Stein.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
35. It doesn't fit the definition of "classic red-bating."
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:22 PM
Aug 2016

It doesn't fit the definition of "classic red-baiting." Or even red-baiting, classic, new, traditional or any other irrelevant qualifier.

Simply one (more are always better though) peer-reviewed journal or text in regards to this may assist you in better understanding the term, its implication and prevention of further confusion.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
10. As Pampago indicated, you're not seeing cold war red baiting here.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 06:49 AM
Aug 2016

Putin is being judged by his actions and they are plenty deserving of the criticism.

Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
28. I believe he forgot his sarcams tag? I took it as parody?
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:51 PM
Aug 2016

But I tend to believe in the best intentions of people until they prove otherwise. It's a trait that's bitten me in the ass more than a few times.

I guess parody or not, either way, it's pretty funny.



 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. Wow, I never thought I'd read someone so glaringly misuse "red-bating" on DU
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:19 PM
Aug 2016

Wow, I never thought I'd read someone so glaringly misuse "red-bating" on DU, regardless of the year, or the insertion of a less-than-clever cover of a pop song.

Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
40. Hands down the laziest way to attempt to dismiss the content, and uncomfortable revelations
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 05:59 PM
Aug 2016

about Comrade Stein and her relationship with the pathologically violent, fascist despot, Putin.


KewlKat

(5,645 posts)
15. We know the love Drumpf professes for Russia and Putin
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 07:40 AM
Aug 2016

Drumpf Jr says they do have "loans" from Russia.......I feel deep down that Drumpf is using some of that "loan" money to fund his failing campaign and wouldn't doubt Comrade Jill isn't also benefiting in some way via funds. Most disturbing to me is that Mr Flynn sits there among them and he's the "advisor" to Drumpf on military issues............

Surely the state dept knew Jill and Mike were traveling there? Follow the money..............

Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
25. Comrade Stein probably has her own coffee mug at RT, she's there so often.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:09 PM
Aug 2016

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I had no idea until I started perusing YouTube and saw the numbers of RT interviews and stories with her. She's there a LOT.

I knew about the 180 she did on Brexit on her Facebook and thought it was odd, but kind of chalked it up to her, um - let's just say I don't think she's a very clever or witful person. Now it makes more sense. Her first, honest position on Brexit was Russia Today's position on Brexit, which is to say, her position was that of Vladimir Putin.

Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
27. Yup. Dead animals around her neck when she professes vegetarianism
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:31 PM
Aug 2016

kind of sums up her character rather well.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
29. K/R
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:59 PM
Aug 2016

Agent Orange is appearing to be more and more the unwitting accomplice (stooge) that Morrell described him as. There was a comment on AmericaBlog that Lowendowsky was also in attendance.....love to know if that was the case. Until we see his tax returns there is no way of knowing how deep the Russian claws are into Trump...Stein, too.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
30. I think the whole Trump campaign is a Putin Op
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 02:11 PM
Aug 2016

Julian Assange and WikiLeaks, Stein, Trump's campaign manager Manafort and who knows who else all have ties to Putin.

Putin want a direct line right into the White House to pull Trump's strings if he's President.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
31. Plenty on the American left embrace Russia.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 02:34 PM
Aug 2016

There were (and are) a few here that constantly take Putin's side because the capitalist West is so evil, ya know. Many are over Nut Pine Radicals now, and happily support Stein, who went to Russia, at Russian government expense to an event honoring a Russian propaganda outlet, and gave a speech trashing U.S. foreign policy and human rights. In Russia. FUCK. HER.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
33. Yep, Orwell called it Negative Nationalism.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:09 PM
Aug 2016
http://orwell.ru/library/essays/nationalism/english/e_nat

Just imagine crazy nationalism, and then imagine the reverse of that aimed at a particular entity, in this case, the US.

Anyone who is against the US becomes someone to root for. That's what I see in Putin worshippers on the left.

Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
39. Like Stein's (haha) "VP" selection, who calls Sanders' supporters "white supremacists"
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 05:42 PM
Aug 2016

and said his campaign was an ideological prop of the capitalist-imperialist settler state

http://americablog.com/2016/08/jill-steins-vp-choice-thinks-bernie-sanders-capitalist-imperalist.html

In their desperate attempt to defend Sanders and paint his critics as dogmatists and purists, the Sanders supporters have not only fallen into the ideological trap of a form of narrow “left” nativism, but also the white supremacist ethical contradiction that reinforces racist cynicism in which some lives are disposable for the greater good of the West.

And as much as the ‘Sandernistas ’ attempt to disarticulate Sanders “progressive” domestic policies from his documented support for empire (even the Obamaite aphorism “The perfect is the enemy of the good” is unashamedly deployed), it should be obvious that his campaign is an ideological prop – albeit from a center/left position – of the logic and interests .

Maru Kitteh

(28,825 posts)
42. I imagine they'll keep trying in unclever and utterly transparent ways to tell us
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:55 AM
Aug 2016

that Jill is not worth our time, or really just our friend after all. Don't friends usually accuse you of killing little kids, go on Russian state television and tell everyone that you will destroy the entire Earth?

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