2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGuys, enough. Donald Trump's not really a member of NAMBLA. That's just a silly joke.
However, many people are saying that Donald Trump is a member of NOLFDI, the National Organization for Legalization of Father-Daughter Incest.
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Many people are saying this!
sarae
(3,284 posts)Is it true? I don't know, but I've also heard that many people are saying it...
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
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(19,877 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Those two photos are really disturbing to me. They always have been. I just never see photos like that of fathers and their young teenaged daughters. Ever. Too weird, really. Disturbing on several levels.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Trump looks much more like a Sugar Daddy in the photos than he looks like a real father to that teenager.
Creepy. Ick.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)but I've never seen that kind of thing in any of the families I have known. Posed photos like that just aren't part of my experience between fathers and daughters. And there are several of them.
It sort of raised my hackles the first time I saw it. Those two photos have always just squicked me out.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)The 3 boys look and act like Dad (ugh, the greasy arrogance), and the 2 girls look like their mothers, i.e. rather like Barbie dolls. Donald definitely has a "type" he likes.
The girl raised in California, Tiffany, looked like the odd one out. Just body language. I've read she has access to a fraction of the money the others have, and that no doubt has as much to do with her mother's decision to raise her in California as it has to do with whatever settlement Marla got when they divorced.
Ivanka today looks poised, polished, and a mouthpiece for the family onstage.
It's the creepy and very public family album photos of her as an extremely young teen that read like a textbook case on the kind of girl who learns very early that behaving seductively toward her father is the way to get material privileges, and that often goes with having been abused by the same man in the first place.
It's just so in-our-faces, like everything else Donald does. It's all about dominating everyone and everything in his sight. And getting away with it.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)He cannot hold his tongue, and his tongue will defeat him.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)He's very....handsy with her.
There's nothing wrong with pictures of dads hugging their daughters or giving them a kiss on the cheek. As a father myself, that's rather endearing. It's sweet.
But when the hand starts wandering, and then you couple it with his public statements on the Stern show.....ugh.
sarae
(3,284 posts)I got another disturbing pic for you...
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)kimbutgar
(21,163 posts)Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)
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Alex4Martinez
(2,193 posts)We become outraged if the subject of Bill's behavior is raised and then stoop to this nonsense?
Look, there are millions of victims of sexual assault and abuse by parents and family members, far more than are known.
I think this post is insensitive to people who experience this and I don't think it will help elect democrats to engage in lowbrow humor and innuendo.
Sorry, it just struck me as really unkind to real-life survivors of abuse.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)That you consider deleting this thread or at least the pictures. I know I'm a relatively new poster here but I'm coming from a place of wanting to be on the side of women and girls ~
And I'm not in any way suggesting the conversation of just how inappropriate Trump is, should be censored. But there are so very many things that could be discussed. There's a lot of meat on that bone.
These photos exploit Ivanka. I've posted my thoughts about these photos before. At the risk of seeming redundant, allow me to say it again -
I think it's vital to shine a light on Trump's behavior - just not at the expense of the dignity of any woman or any girl.
I'm suggesting that the particular photographs - rebroadcasting an inappropriate
moment - especially the ones where she's a child, revictimizes Ivanka, the harmed party. I mean, that's the whole point of the topic, right? Look at how creepy he is with his kid. Which he is. And she had to be on the receiving end of that.
The photos point out his behavior while simultaneously re-exploiting her.
I think we can all agree on just how reprehensible his behavior toward women is. I just take issue with the photographs and, as I've posted before, the unintended consequence of putting them out there yet again.
Just my two cents...again.
Peace.
SheriffBob
(552 posts)Those pictures are very revealing and prove that he has an incestuous interest of his daughter.
I feel very sorry for Ivanka.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)What possibly justifies going there?
SheriffBob
(552 posts)maybe ivanka will see the light.
yesphan
(1,588 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)Let's be accurate here. No is saying or even suggesting that Donald Trump is a member of NAMBLA. It's just that some people are saying - not me, but some people, I read it somewhere earlier today - that he might have made contributions to that organization.
TheBaculumKing
(102 posts)Just saying...