2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJill Stein Has Lost It!
"I don't think what Donald J. Trump says is worse than actually what Hillary Clinton in fact has done."
-Green party presidential nominee Dr. Jill Stein
http://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/stein-voters-clamoring-for-something-else-741153347970
Me.
(35,454 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)I think you're correct.
yardwork
(61,622 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)All politicians of every political stripe should now denounce Trump. She should, Johnson should, the entire GOP...anyone with an ounce of decency.
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)I wasn't surprised to hear her say that.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)groundloop
(11,519 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)They have a lot in common.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)I honestly do not trust what her campaign is all about especially when I saw a commercial the other night . Wonder where the money is coming from and who she is working for .
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...about Cornel? I mean, really dissed him.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)nt
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)and her supporters are hypocrites. There was a story I read, maybe it was on here, about how the Greens had their convention a few days back and talked about the evils of corporations, including corporate farms. Then a bunch of them went to McDonalds after for lunch. Its just bullshit like that which makes the Greens a joke. If you want everyone else to sacrifice and claim that you are so much better for the country that the dems and republicans are essentially the same, you have to spend at least 1 day practicing what you preach. Otherwise you are just a bunch of privileged assholes with too much time and not enough sense.
lancer78
(1,495 posts)just support those causes so that they can crush puss.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)I support Hillary 110%...but there will always be 3rd and 4th party candidates...especially now. Why people are so afraid of them I dont know. Bush wouldve stolen that election no matter what as the Iraq War and Patriot Act had been planned years before with strategies were already written and enacted. It's a fact that we could have already harmed the planet so much that recovery could be in question so the Greens have their place. Whining about such a minority opponent makes us look classless, weak and immature. Keep your eye on the ball. Trump is the issue. And its Gary Johnson who will peel most votes away...hopefully Republican ones. If Hillary truly wants to prevent him from peeling independents or single issue voters then why not get over the corporate yoke and support cannabis legalization already??? There are no good arguments against it and decades of suffering and oppression behind it's illegality. 1 in 8 smoke pot and 60% favor outright legalization with 90% supporting medical applications. Want to win people over and neuter 3rd parties and prove that winning our democracy back is #1 then simply do the obvious.
spooky3
(34,456 posts)the right comparison is the full set of what Trump has said and done and is likely to do, vs. the full set of what Clinton has said and done, and is likely to do.
Jim Dandy
(358 posts)Vlad is running two candidates this year.
niyad
(113,323 posts)PJMcK
(22,037 posts)And welcome to Democratic Underground, Jim Dandy. Keep posting.
we constantly have people on here chastising us for speaking ill of her. For her to defend Trump and his comments he made today tells you all you need to know about her and what her real motives are.
niyad
(113,323 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)Beyond lost it. She's always been Out There, but now she's gone beyond the solar system. Plus destructive
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)I once knew an ultra hippy "naturopath", whatever that is, and she had the same holier than thou attitude about everything but was just like the rest of us. She chided people for eating garbage food but ate fast food all of the time. And talked about the evils of greed and corporations and material excess but lived in a big house and drove a fancy gas guzzling car.
Its easy to criticize but much more difficult to lead by example. Jill Stein is just an opportunist who is just like every other politician. Hillary isn't perfect but she also doesn't claim to be. She seems aware of her faults and her mistakes but keeps trying to improve herself. People like Stein claim to have all of the answers but can't spend even 1 day practicing what they preach.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)So sick of this anecdotal garbage. I knew a school teacher once who was a hypocrite...so what? It's religious nuts and right wing fools we are fighting.
EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)Jill Stein being a good example.
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EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)... to be a traitor to this country. Putin's useful idiots.
I'll be sure to add you to the list.
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MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Another crazy. And you know, I support the idea of multiple parties but if this is an indication of who or what people will choose-count me out.
Rex
(65,616 posts)After Trumps latest bombastic statement, every single American should denounce him. Stein and Johnson should come out and condemn his language as unpresidential. If they don't, fuck em they can join the folks that drank the kool aid.
mcar
(42,334 posts)Go away,Jill.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)With their help we got W and effectively screwed their agenda for many years. Idiots.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)knowing that the vulnerable of society will pay for their prideful, ego-driven vote.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)He SAYS he stopped smoking weed, but then he keeps talking and reveals he was lying!
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)As someone already said, has she ever HAD it?
Her VP pick has said some horrible things about Pres. Obama, former Pres. Bill Clinton and from all I've read, he's anti-Semitic, saying some nasty things about Bernie Sanders.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)She and Trump can both go away and never be heard from again.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)uponit7771
(90,346 posts)Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)patsimp
(915 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... we need the Green votes.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Fuck Jill Stein I have no respect for her.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)I also don't get the Green Party.
Yallow
(1,926 posts)And you don't care.
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)TRUMP! Every person with an ounce of decency should renounce him right now for their everloving soul. I'm being completely serious...they are getting schooled by a few Russian stooges.
This is hard to believe, but my CT side (spider sense) is going wild with thoughts of Russian mobsters, Putin, Asshat and Snowden. First the try at overthrowing our election, then this 'joke' about 'something happening' to HRC?
Nope, don't buy it...I feel this is very bad. I feel the Russians are trying to play us.
Skittles
(153,164 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Its harmful to waste energy on Jill instead of Trump.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Just what the fuck is he trying to pull? Is someone paying him to incite violence among the uneducated voter base?
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Yeah at first I wondered that too, did the Clintons plan something to destroy the GOP? No way this guy is real! Then with all the information about his foreign ties, one does have to ask where all his money is tied up.
Certainly ain't in paying the people that work for him!
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)There's no talking or rationalizing with them.
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)catbyte
(34,393 posts)still_one
(92,204 posts)questions, such as why she won't release her Tax Returns
sarae
(3,284 posts)So much for transparency!
She's doing a Town Hall on CNN, Wednesday Aug 17. I wonder if they take write-in questions, as well?
http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2016/08/03/cnn-to-host-presidential-town-hall-with-green-party-ticket-on-aug-17/
still_one
(92,204 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)interesting that she hasn't released since 2011.
uponit7771
(90,346 posts)still_one
(92,204 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)would probably reflect poorly on doctors since they're so wealthy and make so much money that the AMA would be very angry with her if she released them.
obamanut2012
(26,079 posts)Plus, you know there will be Putin money revealed, and her Big Pharma stocks, which are well known anyway.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)How about going to the effort of getting elected to something local and building on it if you truly believe in it?
JHB
(37,160 posts)...since Nader's 1996 run.
Do they have one? Nope. Bernie did a better job in just 14 months.
obamanut2012
(26,079 posts)She is being bad to be so awful. Probably by the same people paying Trump. And she doesn't care.
jeanmarc
(1,685 posts)I find her absolutely repulsive and I've only seen two interviews.
Clean it up, Green Party. You still have a lot to explain for with Nader getting Bush elected.
cleveramerican
(2,895 posts)She could have done so much more and never will.
Ma. Folks have known her to be erratic at best.
lame54
(35,292 posts)to step in if The Donald drops out