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powergirl

(2,393 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:44 AM Nov 2012

Behind the Scenes at Romney HQ Election Night - the moment he had to concede




This is the first article I found that really describes what happened at that moment when Gov. Romney had to step out and make that concession speech. The article is lengthy which describes the entire Obama strategy and is worth a read - but I am always interested in what those last moments were like. Kinda sad - but GLAD WE WON!



"Even as the networks declared Mr. Obama the winner, Mr. Romney, who had earlier told reporters he had written only a victory speech, paused before the walk downstairs from his hotel room in Boston. It was 11:30 p.m., and Romney field teams in Ohio, Virginia and Florida called in, saying the race was too close for the candidate to give up. At least four planes were ready to go, and aides had bags packed for recount battles in narrowly divided states. Bob White, a close Romney friend and adviser, was prepared to tell the waiting crowd that Mr. Romney would not yet concede.

"But then, Mr. Romney quietly decided it was over. “It’s not going to happen,” he said.

"As Ann Romney cried softly, he headed down to deliver his speech, ending his second, and presumably last, bid for the White House. Four decades earlier, his father and inspiration, George Romney, a former Michigan governor failed in his own such quest."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/us/politics/obama-campaign-clawed-back-after-a-dismal-debate.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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Behind the Scenes at Romney HQ Election Night - the moment he had to concede (Original Post) powergirl Nov 2012 OP
I cannot find it in my heart, no matter how closely I look Tansy_Gold Nov 2012 #1
Great post. I can add nothing. n/t demokatgurrl Nov 2012 #2
+1 Firebirds01 Nov 2012 #3
Me either Tansy jpbollma Nov 2012 #4
You are right Tansy powergirl Nov 2012 #6
Same here... ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #16
What you said Carolina Nov 2012 #10
Seconded MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #13
wish we could rec your reply rurallib Nov 2012 #29
Why doesnt DU have a Thumbs up for good comments? ErikJ Nov 2012 #82
... Tsiyu Nov 2012 #97
No I meant a thumbs up that wouldnt put the thread back up to the top of the page. ErikJ Nov 2012 #99
You can rec the thread Tsiyu Nov 2012 #101
NO I MEANT FOR ANY COMMENT IN THE THREAD ErikJ Nov 2012 #104
Okay, I had some coffee Tsiyu Nov 2012 #109
Kickin' this post. Well stated. loudsue Nov 2012 #30
+1 forestpath Nov 2012 #38
May they and their clan finally admit that they are evil. Then they may rot. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #42
+10000 valerief Nov 2012 #49
+ 5 trillion. speedoo Nov 2012 #52
I agree. Well said. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #57
Yes, exactly. nt PCIntern Nov 2012 #60
I agree Glaisne Nov 2012 #61
Well I do pity them, but the way you pity a mad dog that cannot be allowed to be free. nolabear Nov 2012 #65
You expressed my sentiments exactly! LibGranny Nov 2012 #66
PREACH! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #70
Yep. I even felt the McCains were decent people on some levels. I don't feel that about the Romneys. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #81
Exactly. Tansy_Gold Nov 2012 #91
Honestly, I was more worried about McCain winning because of Palin than because of McCain himself. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #92
you betcha! noiretextatique Nov 2012 #83
thank you, Tansy. so well said. Whisp Nov 2012 #90
Very well put, indeed. He can go back home to a life of tremendous wealth and privilege. Most anneboleyn Nov 2012 #98
Somewhere in heaven, John Lauber is smiling - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #107
If accurate ChangeUp106 Nov 2012 #5
I believe once CO came in strong, LisaL Nov 2012 #28
Yep. I was playing with the interactive map as returns came in and saw that cui bono Nov 2012 #71
Looking at Mitt's face/eyes, and seeing his absolutely fake concession speech... progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #51
"fake concession speech".....exactly, that was their whole mantra.... a kennedy Nov 2012 #68
Me too democrattotheend Nov 2012 #55
Liars should not win Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #7
Maybe he realized that liars shouldn't win bama_blue_dot Nov 2012 #17
I believe the lies were his Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #19
Oh yes, it is definitely on him.. bama_blue_dot Nov 2012 #24
He's a sociopath and is incapable of feeling BlueToTheBone Nov 2012 #43
I think he realized he had no chance, because Obama did not need either FL or OH. LisaL Nov 2012 #32
Romney is sociopathic; the lying was all his. Are you being some kind of psychological revisionist? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #74
Fascinating read! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #8
Behind the scenes, waiting in the wings? Tagg Romney? freshwest Nov 2012 #34
Third time's a charm! cui bono Nov 2012 #73
Oh, please no! But that's why this is not over, by any means. freshwest Nov 2012 #86
Excellent article with great reporting. Thanks for posting. nt kstewart33 Nov 2012 #9
I find it difficult to believe this story frazzled Nov 2012 #11
I Totally Agree With You On This.... global1 Nov 2012 #20
This is why when they called Ohio bama_blue_dot Nov 2012 #31
My feelings exactly. I kept saying if they call FL it's over, no path for Romney. cui bono Nov 2012 #78
Rove sounded like he was expecting some magical Romney votes to appear in OH. LisaL Nov 2012 #33
Their internal polling was worse than Rasmussen. geek tragedy Nov 2012 #22
Somehow mzteaze Nov 2012 #53
Actually... mzteaze Nov 2012 #62
2010 turnout model hoboken123 Nov 2012 #105
Exactly. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #23
Everyone suffers from confirmation bias gravity Nov 2012 #26
Except that Romney lies to everyone, including himself. tinrobot Nov 2012 #35
the article touches on their denial: dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #39
Wow - that's astounding. Patiod Nov 2012 #87
Damn this made me a little sad , especially for An outsideworld Nov 2012 #12
Ann? who spoke dismissively about the President? progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #50
WTH?! She, who wants NO REGULATIONS (quote); who called Obama "UNSPORTSMANLIKE" (meant several ways, WinkyDink Nov 2012 #72
I take back my sadness .LOL outsideworld Nov 2012 #79
:-) WinkyDink Nov 2012 #94
REAL curious here about which cue created "decisive" critical mass in R's estimate of the situation. patrice Nov 2012 #14
Again, I say, ... fugop Nov 2012 #15
very Very well said! & You nailed it. patrice Nov 2012 #21
Exactly.... nenagh Nov 2012 #44
And we will never have to see those smug, fake smiles from the Romney's EVER AGAIN. bushisanidiot Nov 2012 #18
Those delusional twits need to go back flamingdem Nov 2012 #25
Yeah, we still got 99 problems ... frazzled Nov 2012 #37
Which Romney son runs for Prez in a few decades? yashoo Nov 2012 #27
And so ends the fraud they attempted to perpetrate on the public. Maven Nov 2012 #36
I just don't know... MoonchildCA Nov 2012 #40
I think he had faith in the voter suppression and fraud schemes that they put together. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #48
Uh, folks....look at the Byline... Nagourney. Malikshah Nov 2012 #41
exactly! Thank you for also noticing that. They paint Romney as some sort of victim... nt progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #46
I agree. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #59
Excellent read. But I have call out the MSM on their "Obama's relentless ads against Romney" progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #45
And SO WHAT?! Since WHEN is one candidate not supposed to refer to the OTHER, FGS?! WE ARE PUSILLA- WinkyDink Nov 2012 #76
Robme blew it when he pissed off Chrysler... Carni Nov 2012 #47
"We won't be giving out government checks"... 47 percent of us are losers (not his exact words... kjackson227 Nov 2012 #54
Romney screwed me one last time Submariner Nov 2012 #56
Awesome slice of life post. And thank you for enduring yet one more indignity - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #108
I feel no pity Botany Nov 2012 #58
The 47% comments--did I miss them in this article? TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #63
Rmoney held America and his own campaign volunteers hostage election night sally5050 Nov 2012 #64
Funny, this kind of confirms what I believed all along WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #67
I think you are 100% wrong. FWIW. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #77
"he had written only a victory speech" = COCKY S.O.B. TO THE VERY END. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #69
If I never see Willard The Rat and amuse bouche Nov 2012 #75
When Ann Romney Gave President Obama the finger......caught by CNN zwyziec Nov 2012 #80
She's a willing co-conspirator UtahLib Nov 2012 #93
Pity Utah too UtahLib Nov 2012 #84
I'll go against the grain by saying something nice about Romney. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #85
ah man, I was hoping for pictures!! faithfulcitizen Nov 2012 #88
Pseudologia Fntastica Sophiegirl Nov 2012 #89
It was over with Colorado RosedaleGuy Nov 2012 #95
"Mr. Romney quietly decided it was over." GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #96
Yes, he quietly decided several hours after everyone else knew it was over. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #103
Thanks powergirl.. It's Weird how the article..didn't include Joe Biden's brilliant Cha Nov 2012 #100
It makes me sad... kerouac2 Nov 2012 #102
And Santa claus will be here December 24 mstinamotorcity2 Nov 2012 #106

Tansy_Gold

(17,860 posts)
1. I cannot find it in my heart, no matter how closely I look
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:48 AM
Nov 2012

to feel any pity for them. None.

They caused so much hurt to so many -- and would have caused so much more -- that their pain is as nothing to me.

They brought it all on themselves, and I have not one shred of pity, not even compassion. They lose nothing from this and will go back to lives profoundly different from the rest of us. Theirs is only a loss of ambition and opportunity to do harm.

The worst of it is that they learned nothing. Not. One. Thing.


May they rot.


jpbollma

(552 posts)
4. Me either Tansy
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:51 AM
Nov 2012

Good riddance to both of them! I hope they both move to the Caymans to swim in their money.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
10. What you said
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:00 PM
Nov 2012

sums up exactly how I feel.

The lying scum who thought he could say ANYTHING, spend any amount and win, got what he deserved: soundly defeated. He has no conscience, no moral fiber and frankly, no soul. True, indeed, may he rot...

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
97. ...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:08 AM
Nov 2012
































( Hint: when the posting window pups up, look below the Reply title window, and the eighth button - the one farthest to the right - is the "smilies" button, where all thumbsup are kept... )

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
101. You can rec the thread
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:59 AM
Nov 2012

Bottom lower left of an OP

It adds a rec to the thread without kicking it by clicking once

click twice and it goes away

click the number of recs and you will see who recommended

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
104. NO I MEANT FOR ANY COMMENT IN THE THREAD
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:23 PM
Nov 2012

Some are hilarious or good but its not worth kicking the thread back up to the top.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
109. Okay, I had some coffee
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:10 PM
Nov 2012


and now I see what you're saying.

DOH

We just +1 and let the thread get kicked, but you can take the suggestion over to Meta and they may consider it


nolabear

(41,963 posts)
65. Well I do pity them, but the way you pity a mad dog that cannot be allowed to be free.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:55 PM
Nov 2012

They cannot be allowed to have power. They have rights just like all the rest, but power? Not in our government. I think it's correct that they have no real motivation to learn and that's a pity; it's something that for some reason has been denied them, perhaps by the very privelege they cling to. There's a lot to be said for being one of the people and as far as I can see little to recommend being in a tower, be it made of ivory or money.

That doesn't mean I feel no rage, by the way. But I pity them too, even as I turn the key on the lock.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
81. Yep. I even felt the McCains were decent people on some levels. I don't feel that about the Romneys.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:48 PM
Nov 2012

McCain is a moderate at heart who pandered to the right.
Romney is a right-winger at heart who pandered to moderates.

Tansy_Gold

(17,860 posts)
91. Exactly.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:41 PM
Nov 2012

And McCain, regardless of his screw-ups, at least held some respect for those who served in the military. And many of those who do so are very different from the admiral's son. Hell, even Palin's son served in the military. The Romney family scorned those who served, and denigrated their service.

Palin may have her religious wacko issues, but I don't think McCain ever did. In contrast, the Romneys ARE religious wackos. I don't think any of them could hold public office without putting their LDS "faith" first and foremost above all else.

As far as I'm concerned, the Romneys and their campaign have no redeeming qualities. None whatsoever.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
92. Honestly, I was more worried about McCain winning because of Palin than because of McCain himself.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:50 PM
Nov 2012

I thought McCain was hot-headed and might make irrational decisions because of it, and I don't think he's that likeable. I definitely wouldn't want him in the WH. But his policies were far less right-wing than Romney's are. McCain is a right-winger in name only; Romney is a true right-wing vulture. Also, both Cindy and Meghan McCain came out publicly in support of marriage equality. McCain shut down a birther in public at one of his rallies; can anyone see Romney doing the same?

McCain was scary to me primarily because of the thought that he was 72 years old with a history of cancer and Palin was next in line to take over.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
98. Very well put, indeed. He can go back home to a life of tremendous wealth and privilege. Most
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:56 AM
Nov 2012

Americans can't even imagine the life of wealth and privilege Romney enjoys.

ChangeUp106

(549 posts)
5. If accurate
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:51 AM
Nov 2012

I give Mitt credit for deciding it was over despite his team and others in the party wanting a fight.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
28. I believe once CO came in strong,
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:28 PM
Nov 2012

Romney would not be able to get enough electoral votes even if he managed to flip FL and Oh to him. So really he had no option left. Small margins in FL and OH didn't matter anymore because Obama had enough EV without these states.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
71. Yep. I was playing with the interactive map as returns came in and saw that
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:19 PM
Nov 2012

at some point it was clear he would not win. He would've had to get CO, NV, IA... all the smaller swing states and I did not see that happening. My neighbor was over and I told her if Obama gets FL it's over, no path left. Of course we're still waiting for those results. Then, of course, they called Ohio.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
51. Looking at Mitt's face/eyes, and seeing his absolutely fake concession speech...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:21 PM
Nov 2012

and KNOWING his temper, I'd say it was not that mellow. I have no doubt that he was screaming and yelling at his team. NOT that they were saying "hey, hang on Mitt! Don't concede" it was more like he was yelling at them to FIGURE IT OUT!!! He didn't suddenly change his personality overnight. We've seen the numerous hidden camera bits of him screaming at people, and going ballistic. Doubt he was this cool customer that night. No way.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
55. Me too
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:36 PM
Nov 2012

I am all for seeking a recount if there is a good reason, but in this case, Obama won too many states for a recount to make any difference and I give Romney credit for deciding it was over instead of dragging out litigation that would have only served to undermine Obama's legitimacy for no good reason.

bama_blue_dot

(224 posts)
17. Maybe he realized that liars shouldn't win
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:08 PM
Nov 2012

I think if it was totally up to him, he probably wouldn't have told so many vicious lies.. I can't imagine how many of his advisers were telling him that this was what he had to do.. Basically conceding the point that Romney was an extremely flawed candidate, so he had to lie to get any traction..
Even though I dislike him greatly, I do give him credit for not listening to those wolves begging for a recount..

bama_blue_dot

(224 posts)
24. Oh yes, it is definitely on him..
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:23 PM
Nov 2012

I just believe since he is such a flip-flopper, he moves with whichever way the wind blows, and all he cared about was winning.. At least McCain didn't get into the dirt as much as Romney did.. I just can't help but relate this all back to his Mormon faith.. I have read so many things about how the Mormons wanted to take over the U.S presidency.. I don't know if everything I read is true, but this religion (cult) is the main reason he thought he was entitled to be President.. "White Horse Prophecy"

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
43. He's a sociopath and is incapable of feeling
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:05 PM
Nov 2012

right from wrong. Anything sounds good to him, as long as it gets him what he wants. And, he wants what he wants and he wants it right now.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
32. I think he realized he had no chance, because Obama did not need either FL or OH.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:31 PM
Nov 2012

Even if he managed to overturn OH and FL results, it would not matter in the end.
The math just was not there for him.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
74. Romney is sociopathic; the lying was all his. Are you being some kind of psychological revisionist?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:22 PM
Nov 2012

WHAT HE "REALIZED" WAS SIMPLY THAT HE FREAKING LOST.

END OF STORY.

Maybe he didn't really tie his dog on the car roof, either.
Maybe somehow it wasn't his wish to evade going to VietNam.
Maybe he really, really thought Jeep production was going to China.

Yeah, this billionaire just had no will or mind of his own.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
11. I find it difficult to believe this story
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:00 PM
Nov 2012

The campaign HAD to have known, via their internal polling, and all the indications of the external polling, and the well-known near impossibility of a pathway to 270 electoral votes, that they were not going to be winning that night. They must have known it for two weeks, at a minimum.

This is all bluster, imo. If anything, it was a Hail Mary hope that somehow voter intimidation and other shenanigans (Karl Rove's attempt to stop the call for Ohio) could somehow turn things around. I think this account is being fed to the press (the NYT eats this kind of thing up) to somehow make Romney look presidential for making a "decision." As if there were anything to decide. He'd already lost every battleground state aside from NC.

global1

(25,249 posts)
20. I Totally Agree With You On This....
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:16 PM
Nov 2012

they knew they were going to lose and they knew this for at least two weeks. I think - the Hail Mary hope was that they could steal enough votes. I think Rove's attempt to stop Ohio was because he thought he had the stolen votes in his hand there. He was fooled by the American People and particularly the Ohioans - that didn't believe the BS that Rmoney was spewing.

In the end it was the flip-flopping and the lies that did Rmoney in.

bama_blue_dot

(224 posts)
31. This is why when they called Ohio
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:30 PM
Nov 2012

for Obama, I was shocked.. I broke down crying.. I was already set to accept defeat in that state, due to that disgrace Husted.. Who needs to be hauled into court! We can't drop this issue!

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
78. My feelings exactly. I kept saying if they call FL it's over, no path for Romney.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:26 PM
Nov 2012

I wasn't even thinking about OH because of all the election fraud that had gone on there. I especially thought something would happen badly there when I heard Palast's report about the early voting ballots having been absentee ballots.

Must prosecute!!!

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
33. Rove sounded like he was expecting some magical Romney votes to appear in OH.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:32 PM
Nov 2012

It was bizarre, to say the least.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
22. Their internal polling was worse than Rasmussen.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:17 PM
Nov 2012

That's one of the amazing things about this race--Neil Newhouse had a good reputation before this election, but his numbers were so far off that major donors feel like the Romney campaign had to have cooked them up.

mzteaze

(448 posts)
53. Somehow
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:27 PM
Nov 2012

I wouldn't be surprised if his inner circle didn't cook his numbers. Think about it - does he come off as the dude that wanted to hear that he was on the losing end since August - September? or ever really?

If his anger is as legendary as reported, I would have cooked his numbers too just to avoid hearing his wrath AND get paid. LOL

mzteaze

(448 posts)
62. Actually...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:51 PM
Nov 2012

If you read the NYTimes article, they DID practice selective use of numbers to present to Mitt.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/us/politics/obama-campaign-clawed-back-after-a-dismal-debate.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&

<snip>

A Difficult September

As the summer came to a close, the Romney campaign was stuck in a tense debate over how to rescue a struggling candidacy. On some nights, it did not even bother with the daily tracking poll. Why waste money on more bad news? Mr. Obama’s attack on Mr. Romney’s role at Bain Capital, the private equity firm he founded, was in full swing, the Democratic convention had been an unequivocal boost for the president, and a videotape had surfaced that caught Mr. Romney at a private fund-raiser saying that 47 percent of the nation did not pay taxes, a line that reinforced Democrats’ efforts to portray him as an out-of-touch elitist.

“We had struggled pretty dramatically in September,” said Neil Newhouse, Mr. Romney’s pollster. “The 47 percent remark came out, and that was on top of the bounce that Obama got from his convention, so needless to say September was not our best month. It showed in our data. It was grim.”

<snip>

hoboken123

(251 posts)
105. 2010 turnout model
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:41 PM
Nov 2012

They kept thinking they were going to get a surge of motivated voters.

That's why, as Nate Silver, polling groups and online gambling sites had this as a big Obama win, Dick Morris and Romney and Rove saw 300+ EVs coming their way.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
23. Exactly.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:22 PM
Nov 2012

I was watching the electoral vote count climb that night, and it became clear before the West Coast voted that Obama had more than enough to win, and that especially ( and boy do I love this part)
that Ohio and Fla. were not even NEEDED for his win.
All that money, all that vote cheating that they did in Ohio and Fla. was for naught.

If Mittens WAS hanging on till the bitter end, it was only his usual denial of reality talking.

gravity

(4,157 posts)
26. Everyone suffers from confirmation bias
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:27 PM
Nov 2012

You look for the evidence that supports your case and ignore everything else.

When he spends all day telling donors that he has momentum and listening to Fox News, it is not surprising that he starts believing his own bullshit. Deep down he probably knows he is losing, but for the moment he was living in denial.

tinrobot

(10,902 posts)
35. Except that Romney lies to everyone, including himself.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:42 PM
Nov 2012

The only way such a massive liar can live with him/herself is to actually believe the lies being told. I've known a few pathological liars in my life and they all delude themselves into believing their own fabrications.

I suspect Romney hired yes-men enablers and self-deluded himself into thinking victory was well within his grasp. When the truth came out that he lost, it was hard for him to accept because he had been lying to himself all along.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
39. the article touches on their denial:
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:56 PM
Nov 2012

"The power of this ( Obama's team) operation stunned Mr. Romney’s aides on election night,
as they saw voters they never even knew existed turn out in places like Osceola County, Fla."

Mittwit's team had completely dismissed the existance of the 47 %. Isn't that stunning?

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
87. Wow - that's astounding.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:03 PM
Nov 2012

How does Romney justify his "businessman" label, when he can't conduct or accept basic market research?

outsideworld

(601 posts)
12. Damn this made me a little sad , especially for An
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:01 PM
Nov 2012

But they have more than enough money to console themselves with .

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
50. Ann? who spoke dismissively about the President?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:18 PM
Nov 2012

the one who referred to the President, more than once behind closed doors that the President is not an adult.. but a boy? She gets zero sympathy from me. She was revealed time and again as a complete witch. The one thing about laura bush, was that she was NEVER caught o tape saying the shit Ann Romney said about Americans and the President.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
72. WTH?! She, who wants NO REGULATIONS (quote); who called Obama "UNSPORTSMANLIKE" (meant several ways,
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:20 PM
Nov 2012

I'm sure); who thinks her boys "SERVED" merely by being members in good standing of their GREED-HEAD RELIGION?

Uh,......no.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
15. Again, I say, ...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:06 PM
Nov 2012

thank GOD Virginia, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin and Nevada held strong. The most chilling part of this is the bit about having four planes ready to go, with aides prepped to launch recount battles.

The GOP (and Karl Rove) were so confident not because of the math but because they knew if it wasn't a clear victory for Obama in Ohio and Florida, they could gum up the works for MONTHS. And, even if they lost in the end, they could call President Obama illegitimate for the next four years.

So thanks to all the swing states for holding steady. This election just goes to show that they can no longer count on the big two battleground states (with their completely fucked up voting processes, thanks to the craven GOPers who set out to suppress the vote) to bully their way into the White House.

I'll be waking up in a cold sweat thinking about how things could have gone down had we dropped any of the smaller but heroic swings!

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
25. Those delusional twits need to go back
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:25 PM
Nov 2012

to La Jolla and ride their car elevator up and down for a few years

yashoo

(55 posts)
27. Which Romney son runs for Prez in a few decades?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:28 PM
Nov 2012

I'd guess Tagg but that's only because that's the only one of Mitt's Stepford Sons whose name I remember.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
40. I just don't know...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:58 PM
Nov 2012

If he truly, truly believed so strongly he was going to win, he must have been in some sort of bubble. He must have been only listening to fox news and his advisors with their intentionally, skewed internal polling. If he'd been aware of what was going on in the real world, and deciphering information for himself, he would have not been so convinced.

He's like the emperor with no clothes--either that or he's lying... again.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
48. I think he had faith in the voter suppression and fraud schemes that they put together.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:15 PM
Nov 2012

There is a reason why his son bought those voting machines...

Malikshah

(4,818 posts)
41. Uh, folks....look at the Byline... Nagourney.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:58 PM
Nov 2012

The douche has written a "damning with faint praise" piece. The Obama mistakes are highlighted; Romney's are not really his, or at worst are "touched on."

This is a great example of a biased reporter having to do dirty diaper duty. I can imagine Adam grimacing and wincing as he typed this up...

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
45. Excellent read. But I have call out the MSM on their "Obama's relentless ads against Romney"
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:13 PM
Nov 2012

thing. C'mon fools. Romney had 100 x the money in ads going for him, through the PACs and the billion + raised for him. He rain MORE ads, more negative ads. His surrogates were more vicious and tried desperately to personally spin the President as a Muslim UnAmerican, "boy." This meme that I heard from the RW media on Election Night that the President and his ads were "brutish" and "overwhelming" and "painting Romney in a negative light" is one of those lazy memes that I hate.

No, the President's ads exposed the TRUTH about Romney. He DiD pioneer outsourcing. He DID have a hand in destroying entire towns by scamming companies and sending the jobs overseas. He DID flip flop on everything. Non of that was untrue... unlike the filthy work by the Koch Brothers and Crossroads, AND romney himself who lied about Jeep, about the Medicare Cuts, about the Welfare waivers. They were lies, and the rest were innuendoes and outright attacks on the President's faith.

So it's fucking annoying to see a NYT writer continue with that meme. It wasn't the ads that destroyed Romney.. it was ROMNEY.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
76. And SO WHAT?! Since WHEN is one candidate not supposed to refer to the OTHER, FGS?! WE ARE PUSILLA-
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:24 PM
Nov 2012

NIMOUS.

Carni

(7,280 posts)
47. Robme blew it when he pissed off Chrysler...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:14 PM
Nov 2012

I am sure the dreaded Rove was pulling his usual voter hijinx in Ohio similar to Florida 2000.

It may have worked as planned, if the race had been as tight as what it was supposed to be in Ohio and other automotive related states.

When Robme got arrogant and touted the Jeeps made in China commercial/line he blew it.

There was probably a lot of fraud, but so many auto related voters came out in disgust to vote against him, I believe it made up for whatever Rove had up his sleeve/had stolen.

I don't believe any of the drama about Robmes final moments in this article. They were simply waiting to see if Rove could pull something underhanded off and it didn't work.

kjackson227

(2,166 posts)
54. "We won't be giving out government checks"... 47 percent of us are losers (not his exact words...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:34 PM
Nov 2012

but this is what he mean't), Ann's "he's immature" and "you people" comments, along with Tag's "take a swing at him", are still too fresh in my memory to find ANY ounce of compassion for this POS and his family. I hate to sound harsh, but it is what it is. Maybe six months from now I will think differently, but not now...

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
56. Romney screwed me one last time
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:36 PM
Nov 2012

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Election night I was on the 5:45 PM bus from Boston's Logan Airport ready to enter the harbor tunnel to emerge on the other side at the highway and go home after a long business trip. All of a sudden a State Police cruiser blocked the path of all the traffic entering the tunnel just in front of the bus.

For 40 minutes we wondered if there was a terrible car wreck in the tunnel, thus the stoppage. Then it happened, at minute 41 there went the Romney entourage of about 10 police cars and motorcycles, a bus, and 4 blacked out Chevy Suburban vans, and about 10 other vehicles racing through he EZ Pass Fast Lane. It was Romney racing back to his headquarters to watch the election returns, and eventually concede.

He f*cked me one more time, but given how jubilant I felt later that night, I've decided to forgive him for this transgression.

I know, I know. Don't pat me on the back for being such a good guy by being so forgiving while being screwed by a republican. But thanks anyway.

I just grimaced and took one for the DU Team in our hours of semi-anxiety before Obama crushed Willard.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
58. I feel no pity
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:49 PM
Nov 2012

As Ann Romney cried softly, he headed down to deliver his speech, ending his second, and
presumably last, bid for the White House.

You want to cry? Then let Bain capital buy your company and have you build a stage from
where they will fire you from.

 

sally5050

(151 posts)
64. Rmoney held America and his own campaign volunteers hostage election night
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:54 PM
Nov 2012

by waiting to concede much longer than was necessary.

he was a craven egotistical all about me candidate right up till the final second.

I don't miss him or his cultish family one bit.

I hope the Mormon church thinks twice about foisting such garbage on the American public again.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
67. Funny, this kind of confirms what I believed all along
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:00 PM
Nov 2012

That Romney didn't really want this. That he was doing it merely for his church, his late father, and his wife, who felt entitled to be First Lady.

I could be completely wrong, of course. That's happened once or twice in my life.

zwyziec

(173 posts)
80. When Ann Romney Gave President Obama the finger......caught by CNN
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:46 PM
Nov 2012

Yes indeed. The Patrician Ann Romney was caught by CNN giving President Obama the finger after a debate.

Ann carries the whip in that family, and to think that she would have had a say in major white house decisions.

I have no pity for this family of classless, ambitious, self-righteous, proselytizing, elitist thugs.

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UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
93. She's a willing co-conspirator
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:55 PM
Nov 2012

Isn't that the debate where she yelled out "what" when the President was speaking and then looked to both of her sons for approval? She is every bit as sick minded as her husband and trained her children to be the same.

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
84. Pity Utah too
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:51 PM
Nov 2012

The governor of Utah is extending feelers to gauge the reaction if Utah makes a bid for hosting the olympics again. If they are successful in their efforts, no doubt Romney will come flying into Utah as the hero who saved the first olympics held here. Even though his participation last time was greatly aggrandized, this state does not easily abandon their imaginary or totally fabricated heroes. Think I'll move to Washington!

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
85. I'll go against the grain by saying something nice about Romney.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:52 PM
Nov 2012

On Labor Day 2016, think about Mitt Romney. Think about how much better a President he would have been than whatever wingnut has just won the Republican nomination.

Of course, it's possible the Republican establishment will be able to protect the nomination for another McCain/Romney type. I'm guessing, though, that the Tea Partiers and "movement conservatives" won't let that happen again. My early prediction is that the 2016 nomination goes to a hardline right-winger. Something like a Pence-Rubio ticket is likely.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
89. Pseudologia Fntastica
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:19 PM
Nov 2012

A severe psychological condition, similar to pathological lying, but different in the sense that the person afflicted genuinely believes their own lies. A person suffering from PF will often respond with anger, confusion and even violence when confronted about the truth of their statements.
Someone with PF may believe that they have written a movie script that is going to be filmed in Hollywood next weekend, and will tell their friends this lie every weekend for months.


Sound familiar?

RosedaleGuy

(89 posts)
95. It was over with Colorado
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:16 PM
Nov 2012

This story makes no sense. Once Colorado was lost it was game over regardless of Ohio or Florida. This idea that he decided to concede is silly. He had no choice but to concede after Colorado came in. He knew hours before he conceded that it was over. I knew hours before it was called for Obama that it was over.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
103. Yes, he quietly decided several hours after everyone else knew it was over.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:37 AM
Nov 2012

The network calls came around 10:15 PM.
Romney conceded at 1:00 am.

Cha

(297,249 posts)
100. Thanks powergirl.. It's Weird how the article..didn't include Joe Biden's brilliant
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:43 AM
Nov 2012

debate and the 2nd and 3rd Pres Debates. Like they didn't exist..when Joe's "stopped the bleeding" as been written And the brilliance of Obama in the last two.

Oh no.. it's just all about the 1st debate..uh, no. But, there were some things in there that I found interesting and haven't seen anywhere else.

There will be many more articles and books to come..I'm so glad he's GONE.

kerouac2

(449 posts)
102. It makes me sad...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:16 AM
Nov 2012

because it reminds me about what these people put Al Gore through. He actually DID win. It also makes me think of John Kerry having to do the same thing...

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
106. And Santa claus will be here December 24
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:42 PM
Nov 2012

I am tired of the over analyzation of OUR Victory. Its done, we got bigger fish to fry. Time to send Rhinoceros Prebuis to Federal Lock up!!!!!Send out the links for that!!!!!! And time for these State AG's to sit down and have very enlightening conversation with the Federal AG"S and take a look at the new singing groups that will arise out of these conversations. I betting on some of them being a Vanilla Ice. A ONE HIT WONDER!!!!

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