Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 03:48 PM Aug 2016

Why "just joking" is not a defence.

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/9/12417100/donald-trump-assassinate-hillary-clinton-joke

But in a certain sense, it doesn’t really matter what Trump intended. This tweetstorm, from Dallas lawyer Jason P. Steed, explains why.

Before becoming a lawyer, Steed was an English professor. He wrote his PhD dissertation on "the social function of humor" and found something important: Jokes about socially unacceptable things aren’t just "jokes." They serve a function of normalizing that unacceptable thing, of telling the people who agree with you that, yes, this is an okay thing to talk about.

This, Steed explains, is why "it’s a joke" isn’t a good defense of racist jokes. By telling the joke, the person is signaling that they think racism is an appropriate thing to express. "Just joking" is just what someone says to the people who don’t appreciate hearing racist stuff — it shouldn’t matter any more than saying "no offense" after saying something offensive.

Likewise, Trump is signaling that assassinating Hillary Clinton and/or her Supreme Court nominees is an okay thing to talk about. He’s normalizing the unacceptable.

1 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why "just joking" is not a defence. (Original Post) pnwmom Aug 2016 OP
People hide behind humor for so many reasons. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #1

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
1. People hide behind humor for so many reasons.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 04:45 PM
Aug 2016

Only this time it is obvious. I have reached maximum disgust long ago.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Why "just joking&quo...