What did Trump really say?

[Stonepounder]

Most transcripts read: "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is."

But, did he perhaps mean: "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment, people. Maybe there is."

What a difference a comma (or an implied comma) makes.

[tonyt53]

1. You just convinced me that Donnie really didn't say what we thought. NOT!!

[bluedye33139]

2. The Second Amendment forbids her from appointing judges to the Supreme Court?

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. It was the first one and it was a wise ass

Remark. The sort of shit he has always spouted in private to his employees and servants.

[Jerry442]

4. At this point it's a whole new ball game.

Whatever he meant to say, it's clear that a lot of people heard him say that assassination was a legitimate option. A day later he himself has issued no clarifying statement.

[yellowcanine]

5. No there is no "But did he perhaps mean......" Give it up.

No reason to go there, based on the video. And the last sentence which you (conveniently?) left off. "But that would be a horrible day."

[Stonepounder]

12. From the transcript.

If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don’t know. But — but I’ll tell you what. That will be a horrible day. If — if Hillary gets to put her judges — right now, we’re tied. You see what’s going on.

From the FWIW Dept. The way I heard it:

If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. (Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don’t know.) But — but I’ll tell you what. That will be a horrible day. If — if Hillary gets to put her judges — right now, we’re tied. You see what’s going on.

That is, the Second Amendment remark was parenthetical and the 'horrible day' statement was referring to how bad it would be if Hillary got to 'pick her judges', not to the Second Amendment people, since, according to Trump he was talking about the pro-gun people getting out to vote (after the election, since he was talking about Hillary picking judges, so it was after the election?)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. What he may have meant is less important than what his supporters think he meant.

That's the scary part. That's the stochastic terrorism part. Trump can claim he wasn't talking about assassinating Hillary or federal judges at all, but only about voting for him so she can't appoint judges who favor stricter gun control. I don't think that's what he meant, but his comment was ambiguous enough that he can probably avoid trouble with the Secret Service. But stochastic terrorism is communicating in a way that incites random actors to carry out violent acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable. In other words, it is predictable that because of what Trump said, somebody will think Trump wants Hillary killed and will try to do it - it's just impossible to predict who, or when. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/trumps-assassination-dog-whistle-was-scarier-than-you-think-w433615

[Skidmore]

10. As far as I am concerned,

he is using the same sort of tactic as ISIS.

[JoePhilly]

7. He's shaking the crazy tree trying to get some nuts to fall out.

[major debacle]

8. I fail to see the difference

What difference do you see?

[Left Road]

9. Nuts will rust.

He's a nut. Let him rust from all his disjointed corrosive comments, then his whole campaign will collapse around him.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Or get eaten by squirrels.

At this point I'm just as worried about the nuts who support him. Trump isn't likely to try to shoot somebody, but there are people who listen to him and take him seriously who just might.

[Sanity Claws]

13. How can there be a period after the word "people" when that is not a complete sentence?

"Although the Second Amendment, people" is not a complete sentence. You can't put a period at the end. It only makes grammatical sense as the way the transcripts write it.

[Stonepounder]

14. Since when has Trump needed to make grammatical sense? n/t

[AgadorSparticus]

15. Wth. That comma didn't make a damn bit of difference.

[JCMach1]

16. I don't think he meant assassination, but Bundy type nullification

with weapons (which is another type of violence).

Typical RW conspiracy talk he probably picked-up listening to talk radio.