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Mitt Romney was "shellshocked" at losing the presidential race, an adviser tells CBS News.
"They thought intensity and enthusiasm were on their side this time -- poll after poll showed Republicans were more motivated to vote than Democrats - and that would translate into votes for Romney. As a result, they believed the public/media polls were skewed -- they thought those polls oversampled Democrats and didn't reflect Republican enthusiasm. They based their own internal polls on turnout levels more favorable to Romney. That was a grave miscalculation, as they would see on election night."
Said the adviser: "We went into the evening confident we had a good path to victory. I don't think there was one person who saw this coming."
Another staffer added: "There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't. It was like a sucker punch."
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/08/romney_shellshocked_at_loss.html
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)As a result, they believed the public/media polls were skewed - they thought those polls oversampled Democrats and didn't reflect Republican enthusiasm. They based their own internal polls on turnout levels more favorable to Romney. That was a grave miscalculation, as they would see on election night.
Those assumptions drove their campaign strategy: their internal polling showed them leading in key states, so they decided to make a play for a broad victory: go to places like Pennsylvania while also playing it safe in the last two weeks.
Those assessments were wrong.
Hey,
Well ain't that just a bummer? I admit I was nervous as hell even though Nate had the prediction pretty high. After all, the idiot son was selected somehow.
Peace
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)And absolute entitlement - they finally ran into something that they couldn't buy
SDjack
(1,448 posts)and you get the answer you like. Rmoney got what he paid for.
speedoo
(11,229 posts)We are so fortunate that Obama and his team kept these stupid people out of the White House.
tblue
(16,350 posts)I feared the worst until he won. Amazing they got so caught up in a fantasy. Really, I don't understand how they could be this broadsided.
hanzi88
(35 posts)NCarolinawoman
(2,825 posts)KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)Romney fired people who knew what they were doing and replaced them with a cult of sycophants.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)and thought it was guaranteed to be theirs for the taking:
Couldn't happen to two bigger birther-coddling, race-baiting elitists.
Pool Hall Ace
(5,849 posts)DrToast
(6,414 posts)This suggests their PA stuff was actually cuz they thought they had a chance at winning it and not because they were being desperate.
How clueless can they be?
faithfulcitizen
(3,191 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Romney was stoic as he talked the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan's wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57547239/adviser-romney-shellshocked-by-loss
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)klook
(12,155 posts)but then I realized it will be great for him to have to slink back into the House with his tail between his legs.
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/11/07/paul-ryan-immensely-proud/
http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)from his seat.
klook
(12,155 posts)Then he can retire to obscurity, since he isn't fit for any kind of actual work.
shawn703
(2,702 posts)Is that Kermit the Frog singing one of the parts?
amywalk
(254 posts)Romney thought he was the anointed, Mormon Prince riding up on his white horse to save the constitution from the the black guy. I'm sure he is stunned. This was how it was supposed to happen all along. He had probably been told that since birth.
Pool Hall Ace
(5,849 posts)amywalk
(254 posts)Filibuster Harry
(666 posts)Shocked!!! They just thought they would win the white house based on what -- the economic mess??
The man had no specifics or details. I'm sorry Mitt but i want details on your tax plan, details on what you would replace (if you were to replace it) Obamacare; and how you were going to create jobs. I think you were going to starve the beast so much that we were all going to have to join the military. What about the minimum wage or about FEMA? For a governor you sure left a lot of details out. And really Governor you would not take a $10 spending cut for $ 1 increase in revenue? And you call yourself a businessman?
City of Mills
(2,880 posts)Hopefully now they see what happens when they tune out anything that doesn't fit their worldview.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)His budget plan has been exposed for what it is...pickpocketing...and he for what he is...smarmy and "puffed up". I'm guessing the Wisconsin Democrats have a different plan for his career post 2014.
barbtries
(28,798 posts)that these people actually believe bullshit.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Maybe Romney did have a chance, but anyone who was paying attention knew it was extremely small -- even after the first debate. NO rational person thought Romney had it in the bag. There were many reasons to believe Obama did.
Carni
(7,280 posts)Living in reality instead of la la land may also have helped...
coeur_de_lion
(3,680 posts)They thought they would win because they were good looking and white. Who needs a plan? We got momentum.
Both wives looked stricken, and Ryan himself seemed grim. They all were thrust on that stage without understanding what had just happened.
What happened? You fucking lost you morons. You took your case to the American people, you had your chance to convince them that you were going to be better than Obama and you failed to do that. You pissed off more than half the country with your rapey philosophy and your dismissal of 47% of us as takers. You kept lying and getting caught in your lies.
Then the best statisticians in the country told you that a big loss was coming but you weren't worried about them because they seemed kinda gay and you figure gay people don't know what they are talking about. Idiots.
... you guys are killing me - I'm laughing so hard, I'm crying ...
texpatriot2004
(15,321 posts)Welcome to DU
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)A rubber room, straight jackets and lots of medication. For good measure make them listen to Obama speeches 23 hours a day.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)If they were that confident.
I assume the reason they were is they never in a million yrs thought Black, Hispanic, and young voters would vote in such big numbers again. I think thats why they were so confident
DFW
(54,399 posts)They never had a chance.
smorkingapple
(827 posts)geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)When you're not living in the real world, when the end comes, it's a very steep drop into hell.
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)Karl Rove was using Romney's protest about calling Ohio as part of his argument, but the Romney campaign refused to concede Ohio BECAUSE Karl was having a meltdown.
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)The incompetence of this campaign is one for the history books. I'll be shocked if any of these idiots ever get another job in politics.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Wow, they had no clue. Did they look at ANY of the public polls, not just ones they skewed to fit their view of what the electorate would look like?
Sad when we seemed to know more then they did.
Faux news disease...make up your own reality on the world, make other idiots believe it.
TinkerTot55
(198 posts).....when you see the small crowds that meet you at every campaign stop.
BUT if you think that K. Rove's "genius", voter suppression, and "necessary last-minute software patches" might steal it for you....
and everyone's whispering that God has declared it YOUR TIME, then you would be shocked by the reality of your
M A S S I V E F A I L.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)the fact that this idiot didn't have a concession speech written says it all.
Dude, Nate Silver was telling you all from the go that this was coming. MATH WAS TELLING YOU ALL THIS WAS COMING!!!!!!
That wasn't a comet carrying a brotherhood of Gods coming at you---that was the Train of Progress running you all down.
To the other staffer: no, what's worse than when you think you're going to win and you don't is dropping down on your knees and fellating Fox News for all your information and making all of your decisions based on fantasy and what you wished would be. What's worse is being a liar and believing that lies are never crushed by the righteous weight of the truth.
THE TRUTH ALWAYS OUTS.
If your boy shell shocked by the election, then that means that psychologically, he was never ready to become Commander-in Chief.
Your boy was ready to steal this election, buy off whoever he needed to, take the treasury as his own and probably was going to suspend the constitution and crown himself King.
He got the 5 Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique applied to him on Tuesday. Bill didn't see it coming, either.
It's time for him to take his 5 steps and drop.
Next time, don't throw in with a liar.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)and they are so arrogant as to think they're gonna win?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)... watch Fox News.
If they want to get mad,
they should blame Fox News,
or as Jon Stewart calls them
[font size=6]BullShit Mountain[/font]
smackd
(216 posts)but this is weird...like, the people that CREATED the bubble didn't then realize THEY were in it, too?
umm..wut?
Carolina
(6,960 posts)and all the king's men... didn't work for Mitt.
Shellshocked.... ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
Let him disappear offshore with all his money
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)too bad so sad. On a lighter note, a passenger in the Honda dealer van today told me that Obamacare is terrible because she had to answer a question about whether she has had anal sex. She seemed very interested in this topic. She also announced that her husband pays 3500 a year for a service contract on his Mercedes.
ashling
(25,771 posts)a real sucker!
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)have the tools to handle this level of failure. He knew he would probably lose to Kennedy but he actually thought he had this in the bag. As has been said ,he did not do any interviews for 3 weeks while the President was everywhere on tv, even on the Daily Show. Then Sandy happened which put Obama on TV even more.
riverSdawn
(9 posts)Of course, he is shocked. He was told he would win by the same folks who gave it to bush jr. He was convinced he would fulfill the prophecy of his church. (he had all of those prayers on his side- dagnabbit). He would succeed where his father didn't because he thought himself to be entitled. He had all of the people who hated President Obama on his side. He had fox and friends and clint eastwood cheering for him.
He was a bully and will always be a rich bully who never learned that- (sing it with me)- "You can't always get what you want."
ha ha
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)I hope he has some remorse for all the thousands of people he helped get "shellshocked".
TexasCPA
(527 posts)warpigs
(72 posts)They don't believe in science or math. They believe in faith. Faith is believing in something without facts to back it up.
That is why their tax plan wouldn't balance the budget, it would create a huge deficit. But since they only believe in tax cuts, they can only believe that tax cuts would balance the budget. Makes no fucking sense to any person who uses math/science as a basis for reality.
Anyone else who thought they would win after looking at the totality of the polls is just as stupid as R/R.
And to think we have over 200 of these fuckers in the house......
ivanincali00
(30 posts)Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)We knew it all along.
Phx_Dem
(11,198 posts)electoral vote the entire time? They thought they would have a huge and unprecedented surge in the last day? They're delusional.