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ericson00

(2,707 posts)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:35 PM Aug 2016

Fox News (!) Poll shows that Johnson and Stein Could Elect Trump

For 24 years, the GOP tried to peddle the idea that one Ross Perot elected Bill Clinton in 1992. This was never backed up by anything other than wishful thinking and political spin. In reality, quite the opposite was true; Perot did not only fail to decide the election, but his percentage points mainly came at the expense of Bill Clinton in pre-election polling. But the myth survived, weakened WJC's mandate, the Clinton presidency and even political legacy.

Now, third party candidates are threatening to do this deed again. Even Fox News, one of the biggest peddlers of the Perot-myth, has admitted that Trump can only win with spoilers.

The poll finds Clinton garners 41 percent to Trump’s 39 percent, while Libertarian Gary Johnson receives 9 percent, and Green Party candidate Jill Stein gets 4 percent.

The third-party candidates take more from Clinton than Trump, as she holds a six-point lead in the two-way matchup: 48-42 percent.


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We need to stop all potential vote-wasters from enabling Trump.
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Fox News (!) Poll shows that Johnson and Stein Could Elect Trump (Original Post) ericson00 Aug 2016 OP
Oh I think some from both Johnson or Stein will vote Hillary if the election is close. applegrove Aug 2016 #1
unconcerned Loki Liesmith Aug 2016 #2
I'm pretty sure Johnson is hurting Trump more than Stein is hurting Clinton. Silent3 Aug 2016 #3
Total Fox Bull shit. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #4
First of all, national polls are garbage. Second, those who are voting for stein or johnson still_one Aug 2016 #5

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
2. unconcerned
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:41 PM
Aug 2016

They won't garner near that level of support in the general. Respondents are given a "someone else" option in the D/R only poll. They don't take it.

Silent3

(15,212 posts)
3. I'm pretty sure Johnson is hurting Trump more than Stein is hurting Clinton.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:45 PM
Aug 2016

Most of that Johnson vote, if redirected to one of the two major party candidates, would go to Trump not Clinton.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
5. First of all, national polls are garbage. Second, those who are voting for stein or johnson
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:58 PM
Aug 2016

are not going to change their minds, and there is no point wasting resources on them.

The most important thing that can be done is getting out the vote

As of now, the battle ground states have us in good shape.

The most important thing we need to do is GOTV, do phone banking, and canvassing

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