2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCNN Poll has 50% of electorate as whites without college degree, while in 2012 it was 33%
... and this is why these polls should at least have some kind of standards.
It doesn't matter what they were graded at 2 minutes ago if they're sample rates become stupid.
They're not polling 44% of their "random" samples as Latino and pushing that poll...
Not that the national polling means a damn thing but its click bait polling that the M$M latches on to
No link....Chuck Todd, MSNBC 4:04 pm Central
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)FRAUD
They know what they are doing.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)izzybella
(236 posts)IMHO, polls like this will only bring more of the anti-Trump people out to vote. I am in a red state, and the people I have spoken to are actually scared of him, so they will vote, especially if they see that there is a chance to flip the state.
I don't think that polls that see him ahead do him any favors. I think they are more likely to work against him and bring out the casual voters who may have originally thought is no way he can win.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... and people even there are scared shit less of tRump.
I'm still going to grab minimum 2 to the polls here...
I would love to at least get the attention of the DNC...
The demos who could swing the state big time if they would put up some operations here.
VMA131Marine
(4,139 posts)If the polling average shows Trump leading, that's a time to maybe worry. Currently, it doesn't; Hillary still leads by about 4 points and has many more paths to an electoral college win than Trump. Chalk this poll up as an outlier for the time being. They do happen even for the most careful pollsters.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... the polls to be all over the place to push horse race memes.
In this case we don't need a horse race, we need a person who thinks nuclear war is viable gone as viable candidate.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)When all democrats come out to vote a huge landslide...
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)METHODOLOGY
A total of 1,001 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones. Among the entire sample, 28% described themselves as Democrats, 32% described themselves as Republicans, and 40% described themselves as independents or members of another party.
All respondents were asked questions concerning basic demographics, and the entire sample was weighted to reflect national Census figures for gender, race, age, education, region of country, and telephone usage.
Crosstabs on the following pages only include results for subgroups with enough unweighted cases to produce a sampling error of +/- 8.5 percentage points or less. Some subgroups represent too small a share of the national population to produce crosstabs with an acceptable sampling error. Interviews were conducted among these subgroups, but results for groups with a sampling error larger than +/-8.5 percentage points are not displayed and instead are denoted with "NA".
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)madinmaryland
(64,932 posts)That includes teabaggers who do not consider themselves repubicans. Something is off about this.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)What have the other samples from pollsters shown?
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Remember, the electorate isn't the same thing as the population. The electorate is the people who turn out to vote. Unfortunately, unlike in 2008 and 2012, they have more enthusiasm on their side this year (which is pretty much inevitable for a party that has been out of the White House for 8 years), and thus it is likely that non-college whites, one of their core constituencies, will be a greater share of the electorate. I agree though that the shift does seem too high.