Hillary and I are the same age. I'm voting for her but

[Raven]

after this morning, I'm taking a much closer look at Tim Kaine as the individual who would take over if HRC became incapacitated while in office. I'm wondering what other folks my age here are thinking.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

1. Lol

[Hortensis]

63. Lol alright. But whatever.

I looked at Kaine a long time ago and liked what I saw.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

65. Yes because Hillary would never pick someone who couldn't

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Do the job, but this kind of speculation about her health is shitty

[SoCalNative]

2. Kaine a far better alternative

than Drumpf or Pence

[book_worm]

3. I'm thinking that Hillary will live out her term, but know that

several presidents have died in office and already think that if anything happened to her that Tim Kaine would be a good president. I also know that if that pig Trump dies in office we will get an equally deplorable president like Pence.

[Hortensis]

64. Oh, good grief. Several modern presidents did NOT

did in office. Good grief again? Book_worm may not be able to help being concerned, but for everyone else,

When is the last time that a president died in office after the development of penicillin, much less angioplasty? Assassination excepted, of course.

[LexVegas]

4. Sweet fucking Jesus. nt

[Rex]

9. I guess this guy should have just stayed home, according to some.

[AgadorSparticus]

18. Exactly! Could people overreact any more around here??!!?!!

Good god!!!!

[Rex]

25. I feel ashamed...for fainting this one time in my life.

What is as bad is now the media will go apeshit crazy we will have Healthgate I, II, III, infinity then back to the emails!!!

[AgadorSparticus]

31. Wasn't it that she didn't smile enough the other day?

I mean, c'mon. This is the media. This is what they do. They have done this for 30 yrs. Not gonna change now. I think WE have changed, though. And it is becoming less tolerable what they do to her. The rampant sexism is being exposed and it is ugly. It won't hurt her anymore than anything else they have tried in the last bazillion years. Things are changing. And this will soon blow over too like everything else. Turn the tv off. It makes people overreact because that is what it is designed to do.

Why would you feel ashamed for fainting? Or is it sarcasm and I didn't quite get it? :smile: Just about everyone walks around with some degree of dehydration. So it's not that big a leap to get into the hot zone. I did too in my 20's from dehydration and heat exhaustion (went tubing all day and then hot, muggy concert at night). Learned my lesson. Never again.

[Rex]

35. Yes!!!! For fks sake! She doesn't smile enough!

It was sarcasm. For the past year or so I've kept a lid on my anger at people crapping on our candidate. I think that lid is about to pop off. I've made it this far without getting too worked up over the bullshit, but my tank is on full...I've had enough with the frivolous garbage thrown at HRC!!!

[AgadorSparticus]

37. I hear ya!!! I am too. I am fed up with the constant "concern" about BS stuff

That is being pushed by the RW about Hillary. People need to turn the damn TV off and stop repeating RW shit here.

[Demsrule86]

51. You ever notice that those who post 'concern' crap never

have any indication that they support Hillary...no photos, no "H"...nothing. Why do you suppose that is?

[Beartracks]

61. That sounds like when people complained that...

... Obama didn't wear a flag pin.

===============

[Demsrule86]

76. Just that the concerned among us the ones always writing the breathless posts

never have anything that indicates they are a Hillary supporter. And if Obama had written concerned (attack) posts about the US and not worn a flag pin, it might be the same thing. These posts don't feel genuine.

[OilemFirchen]

62. Even more despicable...

they aren't the least bit concerned about her - as in "I hope she's feeling OK" - rather, "concerned" about her campaign.

If one of my clients faints, my first thought isn't "Oh hell, what if I lose this account?".

So fucking transparent.

[Demsrule86]

75. It sure is...we can see perfectly what is really going on. nt

[melman]

86. Maybe some people

don't treat politics like a fan club.

[Demsrule86]

91. Maybe some people don't understand that during a general...

a fan club is what is needed...the so called constructive (anything but) criticism has no place in a general. Even after the election ..perhaps it is misplaced as well ...I saw many here tear Obama a new one in 09/10 and what did we gain...a Republican Congress...Perhaps a fan club would be more useful in advancing a progressive agenda.

[JTFrog]

95. And hit and run. n/t

[Demsrule86]

96. They do.

This is not about discussion but about a safe sort of attack on our nominee mostly.

[uppityperson]

5. I'm not worried about her age, nothing about this morning makes we worry about her being pres.A ques

A question for you. If you didn't like her vp choice, would you not vote for her?

[Raven]

10. There is no way I would not vote for her...

what I posted were my random thoughts this morning. I guess that when you reach 70 you have a good bit of life experience which prompts you to go to Plan B on instinct.

[uppityperson]

22. Trump left early also, fwiw.

[kacekwl]

88. I heard that also,

was a reason given ?

[mythology]

94. Once he realized it wasn't a tribute to him, he got bored.

[demgrrrll]

58. I'll vote for her if she completes the rest of the campaign on a stretcher. eom

[Hoyt]

6. I'm thinking low blood pressure or sugar. Not a big deal. I'm quite comfortable with Kaine.

[Siwsan]

38. That, or maybe dehydration. This isn't even a blip on my radar

It has happened to me, and yet I thrive.

[Rex]

7. Let's get one thing straight, if HRC was a zombie I would vote for her over Trump

and we were stuck in some horrible Groundhog day nightmare...STILL, everytime...I would vote for HRC...zombie and all.

Why?

Do you really...REALLY trust a man that wants to use nukes in a conventional war? Has ties to Russia's dictator? Sounds like a recipe for WWIII.

It is either vote for HRC or face the wrath of an unhinged moron.

[narnian60]

13. +1

[MFM008]

45. I will vote for her GHOST

.......

[zenabby]

8. wow!

and so it starts..this never ending discussion about her age, health and dress.

[duncang]

11. Almost the same age

But think about this. I am sure in as open of area with as many people as the ceremony she has some pretty heavy duty body armor on. This is probably more uncontrolled area then any stop on the campaign. So to try to understand what she was feeling and how much strength she has. Wait till it is about 80 f outside and humid. Put on a good winter coat closed up all the way. Then walk around for a hour and a half. To me she did really good handling it as long as she did. That is a lot of stress and shows she is in pretty good shape. I doubt if a lot of younger people could handle it as long as she did.


Edit I forgot to add Kevlar doesn't breath like some of the winter coats. So it's probably worse then that.

[House of Roberts]

30. I'm glad you mentioned body armor.

I hadn't thought of that.

[Adrahil]

12. Lol, she gets overheated...

And people start planning her funeral. Sheesh.

[emulatorloo]

14. She'll outlive both of us.

As to taking a "much closer look at Kaine" he's a good man and a solid Democrat.

What do you find so appealing about Mike Pence?

[DURHAM D]

15. I am older than you are and am heading out

to plow the south 40. It is over 85 and the humidity is 65. I have a bottle of water and have applied sun screen.

I will take my phone so I can check the weather and try to get out of the field if there is lightning in the area. That is what I really worry about - getting struck by lightning.

Guess my kids who live in the city are thinking like you, when can they take over.

[TrishaJ]

16. I am close in age as well;

I also considered Tim Kaine. Then I thought about Mike Pence. I said "hell, yeah, Tim Kaine!"

[musicblind]

17. I have always taken a close look at the Vice Presidential candidates.

I have a minor in History, and that's enough for me to know the odds of a Vice President becoming President... well, it may not be likely, but it is very possible. That is why Sarah Palin was such an irresponsible choice by John McCain. That is why, as soon as Biden was selected, I went into full-blown research mode.

Did I think John McCain or Barack Obama were likely to die? No. But they could have. Anyone can.

I think Hillary will be fine. That is what I think, but I am not a soothsayer and nobody on this planet truly knows what the future holds.

Right now, my thoughts are that I hope Hillary feels well going forward and has a wonderful day. I've had a fainting spell before (mine was due to low blood sugar) and I know how scary that can be. I think it was very brave of her to walk out of her daughter's apartment in front of the press like that.

I hope Trump remains classy on this one. If not... **** him.

[MohRokTah]

19. Your concern concerning this concern is concerning. eom

[Zynx]

20. And my Mom died of sudden onset uterine cancer at 67.

What's your damn point?

[MFM008]

46. Sorry

My dad died suddenly on 9- 11- 2000.
The people that died in 2001 and the way the world changed gets lost in political crap.

[Fla Dem]

21. Geez Louise. She became over heated. Have you never become light headed?

This does not indicate any physical concern.

[MohRokTah]

23. BTW, Trump is a Piece Of Shit Used Car Salesman. eom

[AgadorSparticus]

24. She coughed the other day. Where was the death concern then?

...besides freakrepublic. Sorry. This concern is so over the top....


I just don't understand this. Don't you ever go outside and get a little too hot and have to go inside to cool down?

Tomorrow is not guaranteed for anyone. You can't have that much fear....

[hlthe2b]

26. Goodness gratious... I passed out (hard, hitting the sidewalk) when I was 18 for first and thus far,

last time. A combo of heat, dehydration and probably a little post migraine or hypoglycemia dizziness.

Decades later, I can honestly say I am in better shape, eat more healthy, know the steps to take to avoid heat stress, hypogycemia and other issues, have normal BP (which I didn't in my 30s)--so risk-wise this is actually LESS likely to happen to me now then in my teens.

Age isn't, in and of itself, the only (or in many cases even the most important) predictor of health.

[Scruffy1]

27. According to the actuarial tables she has a 94% chance of living four more years.

This is for the general population. her life expectancy should be much better due to other factors such as high income and being a non smoker. The big lie that people living longer in regard to Social Security is largely a myth unless your very rich like Cheney. I worry more about accidents and assassinations. If the press succeeds in getting Dumpster Fire in, it's adios for me.

[Peregrine Took]

28. I wish she had anticipated her health becoming an issue and begun a working out regime a few years

ago.

It makes all the difference in the world and it would be great PR to see her jogging around a track with her young assistants.

I"m 72 and can run for an hour++ straight out in 90 degree sunlight. Not that I'm so great but I' have to do it for health reasons - my husband, too, he's 73 and has had a heart attack, a broken back and Crohn's Disease - we run every day no matter what. I wish I could convince every one to do it. Its hard but you feel great afterwards.

HRC looks like the type you need to watch her when you are walking with her and hold her elbow going up and down curbs. I know that type.

Where was Huma today? She needed her. I bet she was under wraps do to the Muslim thing - 911.

[DURHAM D]

36. Oh good grief - Huma was right beside her and

walked to the car with her.

As for your advice - she does yoga and has a work out routine. When she is away from home she walks because her treadmill and weights don't travel with her. She has done this for years.

"HRC looks like the type you need to watch her when you are walking with her..."

Very telling what you are all about.

[MohRokTah]

52. Your concern concerning this concern is concerning. eom

[AgadorSparticus]

68. Oh stop it already. Good lord.....

[SunSeeker]

71. What a despicable post, especially your stuff about Huma. Please edit/delete.

[suffragette]

74. "That type" ? What a disgusting statement.

And it's disgusting regardless of what people think of the incident with Hillary today.

Do you call people with disabilities "that type"?

People who have hip, knee or ankle injuries?

Someone young or old who just had the flu and feels a bit weak still?

Someone whose back is aching and could use a helping hand?


That's as compassionless a statement as any I've seen here.

[synergie]

90. Um, why do you imagine that a running regimen would prevent dehydration in stifling heat , with a

highly treatable case of walking pneumonia?

I know the type that likes to be all judgmental about other people because they know nothing about medicine, or the reality of what people actually do in their daily lives, and think that just because they do something, everyon else can, and is weak for not doing so. These types are awfully preachy, but rather ignorantly so, since they literally have no clue what they're talking about or the actual health status of those they lecture to.

Her doctor, the one that went to medical school, did residency, fellowship and who actually examined her patient and knows her health status, and her daily schedule? Her diagnosis and prognosis are not nearly as "interesting" as yours, I guess that's what actually having a clue gets ya, an informed opinion.

Her cardiovascular health is excellent, as are her cholesterol levels, pretty damned good for someone her age. I'm guessing they're far better than yours.

I cannot believe the utter ignorance of that last comment. Truly, there are many here who also seem to choose the deplorable basket whenever they have the chance. And also, that's not Huma's job, it is the secret service's. Please don't be the type that just keeps saying truly offensive and deeply ignorant things due their personal dislike of a person who has accomplished a great deal in life and is in excellent health and has the stamina that most women older than her seem to envy.

[kentuck]

29. Trump is older than Hillary...

And women tend to live longer, on average, than men.

I think the Trump campaign has to be very careful how they might attack her on this.

[bmstee01]

32. Every VP should be seriously considered

Pence is deplorable

[Chemisse]

33. I am almost 62

And I can't believe the amazing schedule she keeps. I would have trouble with it.

I would have prefered that all the candidates had been a bit younger. It's a really tough job.

But that's why we have vice-presidents, and of course the alternative to Hillary is not only older than her, but a horrendous choice in every possible way.

[AgadorSparticus]

39. I am in my mid 40's and I don't think I can keep up with her.

People on here sometimes are ridiculous....

[Tanuki]

34. Take a deep breath, and look at these pictures:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3636565/Working-flat-Guardsman-collapses-Trooping-Colour-ceremony-Queen-s-official-90th-birthday-weeks-fainted-rehearsals.html





"A guardsman has collapsed during the Trooping the Colour ceremony in London today as the Queen's official 90th birthday celebrations continue.
The man fell to the floor early on during the festivities at Horse Guards Parade and was stretchered away by officials.

It comes just a few weeks after another soldier collapsed during rehearsals for the event in May, while guardsman have collapsed before in recent years including 2013 and 2011.

The reason is usually a combination of the temperature - today a balmy 22C - and the heavy uniform and bearskin hats the soldiers have to wear.

Yesterday an RAF serviceman had to be led away by paramedics after fainting while standing guard outside St Paul's Cathedral.
The incident happened shortly before the Queen - and hundreds of dignitaries, leaders and members of the Royal Family, arrived at the cathedral for a special thanksgiving service.
Those on duty maintained their professionalism and composure, helping the young serviceman - a member of the RAF Regiment - back to his feet before continuing to stand guard while he was led away. "......
----------------------------------------

My point is that this is neither unusual nor ominous. It can and does happen to young people in excellent health as well as to someone of "Clinton's age." She was wise to leave the event and relax for a couple of hours in her daughter's no doubt comfortable and air conditioned apartment, although the optics are unfortunate in the context of recent innuendo and outright lies about her health.

[LAS14]

60. Yes, thanks. The second one is it. Off I go to twitter land!

[mopinko]

40. i'm close. 62.

i intend to enjoy my next 40 years.
i intend to still be raising hell for at least 20 more years.

your concern is noted. nice nothingburger you got there.


eta- since there is one of those life alert commercials on- my daughter occasionally bugs me to get one. but that is because i have been known to do things like tip my bobcat over, and get shoved off my bed by my big dog and break a couple ribs. NOT because she thinks i am old and infirm. she wishes i would act like i was.

[RonniePudding]

41. GMAFB

[Onlooker]

42. People usually survive

I'm marginally worried, given her hoarseness and near faint today, but they could be linked to a summer flu or, far worse, a Russian poison. Assuming nothing megatious is going on, my feeling is even if she's ill she'll be fine.

[doc03]

43. I am 68 myself and know that both mentally and physically I can't

do what I did 5-10-15 years ago. One good thing Trump isn't any younger and he obviously mentally unstable.

[LAS14]

44. I was not excited about her back a year before...

... she started running because of how my brain was turning to rice pudding. I'm 3 years older. But I'm completely convinced of the power of the situation. Have you noticed how most holders of public office keep going really well and then some may get sick soon after retirement? No way is her brain turning to rice pudding. I expect it to stay really sharp for the next 8 years and well beyond.

As for physical health, I feel just fine and notice that many, many people are living well into their 90's. 70 isn't what it used to be.

[Retrograde]

47. Something similar happened when she was senator

and towards the end of her stint as Sec. of State. IMHO, she overworks herself. that's why we have a vice president,

I'm still voting for her: NFW would I vote for a Republican, even if they found someone rational to run.

[pnwmom]

48. Tim Kaine is a wonderful VP who would have no trouble filling in if he was ever called to do so.

That's why she picked him.

[3catwoman3]

49. I am 65 and in very good health.

I first fainted when I was 9, after a penicillin shot. Again when I was 12,and my reading group had to stand up in front of the class for a really long time. Have done it several more times over the decades, under circumstances that were always easily explained and physiologically logical.

80 degrees could feel quite warm when all buttoned up in a pantsuit, even if you did not have a Kevlar vest on underneath. Blood pooling in the lower extremities from standing too long. Emotional flashbacks to a very agonizing day.

Pull those fingers back from the panic button, folks.

[Demsrule86]

54. I did Madrigals in Ohio..I was wardrobe mistress...and every

year we have girls and boys fainting...choir too.

[Demsrule86]

50. Well my family is from Virginia and Tim is a good guy.

However, since your only other choice is a Republicans...it doesn't matter. And Trump is the worst of a bad lot. I am sure she was dehydrated...not a big deal.

[calimary]

53. Well, all I can say is that Tim Kaine beats the crap outta the religious fanatic Trump picked.

[DawgHouse]

57. Unbelievable.

[Loki]

59. Nope

Probably the same age and I'm not worried. I've seen healthy people in their 20's 30's and 40's drop dead, and my mother who smoked and drank most of her life is 98. The only time I was concerned was when John Dipshit McCain picked the ultimate empty suitand head, Sarah Palin. Now that bothered me, a lot. Tim Kaine went to the same Jesuit high school here in KC my husband attended. He's the real deal.

[BainsBane]

66. Trump is older than Hillary

FYI. He's 70. He's also significantly overweight.

[spooky3]

67. Why don't you check out Cher's comments about

How amazed she was at Clinton's schedule when they campaigned together a few days?

And Cher is hardly a lazy slob...

[Justice]

69. You must not have been listening when HRC said she picked Tim because he could step in if needed.

[Puzzledtraveller]

83. and get that TPP passed if it fails to on Obamas watch.

[Jamaal510]

92. HC has

stated repeatedly that she opposes the TPP. What more does she need to do in order to make herself clear on that?

[BlueMTexpat]

70. Oh - for FU**'s sake!

Can we cease with the "concern?" Hillary has been campaigning non-stop since she declared her candidacy. Can she not be allowed to have a coughing fit or a spell of lightheadedness without people immediately buying into and disseminating GOPer TPs? Especially on DU?

Sheesh! I am amazed at how healthy Hillary is after working MUCH harder than almost any other single person in the US for the past two years (except perhaps for Prez O) - and with NO vacations whatsoever for the past two years that I've heard of.

How many of US - of whatever age or gender - can say or do the same?

As for considering Tim Kaine seriously, those of us who support the ticket wholeheartedly support him as well - without having to voice GOPer TPs to do so. Being able to serve as President should ALWAYS be a consideration for the Veep nominee - that should go without saying.

[nolabear]

73. I'm thinking she's tough as nails and younger than Trump, McCain and Sanders.

She'll be fine.

[SusanCalvin]

77. Already was. Would regardless of her age or mine. nt

[Raven]

80. Really? She's sick. She ignored her Doc's

advice and fell apart today and I need a brain transplant?

[MohRokTah]

81. I agree with the person you are responding to. eom

[whistler162]

79. It proves one thing....

SHE IS HUMAN!


Who knew!

[Puzzledtraveller]

82. I really do not like Tim Kaine

I think his selection was purposed for a man who may be President more so than any other VP selection. If you don't believe that decision is weighed differently based on a candidates health and expectancy to complete their term than you really are naive.

[synergie]

89. Dehydration in stifling heat and a case of easily treatable walking pneumonia leads you to

panic this much?

[Arkansas Granny]

93. I am also the same age as Hillary. She got sick,

she'll get better. Pneumonia is not just an old person's illness and it's treatable.

As far as VP choices, I think she did well with Tim Kaine. Any VP candidate should be chosen with the thought in mind that he/she might have to step up to the presidency. No one is invincible. That is what made through McCain /Palin ticket so scary.