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Sun Sep 18, 2016, 03:17 PM

The pointlessness of presenting facts to Trump supporters

In my recent experience, here's how social media conversations with Trump supporters tend to go:

Trumpite: Hillary Clinton did X! She should be in prison!

Non-Trumpite: That's actually not true. Here are three sources explaining what really happened.

Trumpite: You're an idiot lib-tard!

Non-Trumpite: Just show me some evidence that backs up your initial claim. In the meantime, here is a link to audited financials and other evidence that refute what you are saying.

Trumpite: Fuck off! You are a troll and a horrendous disgrace to America who probably loves ISIS. What I initially said is true and you're just a blind moron if you don't believe it. I win.

Facts really don't matter to them. Feeding their unfocused rage is all they care about.

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Reply The pointlessness of presenting facts to Trump supporters (Original post)
LuckyTheDog Sep 2016 OP
elleng Sep 2016 #1
vlyons Sep 2016 #2
RBInMaine Sep 2016 #3
LuckyTheDog Sep 2016 #8
bmstee01 Sep 2016 #4
bettyellen Sep 2016 #5
narnian60 Sep 2016 #6
upaloopa Sep 2016 #7
anamandujano Sep 2016 #9
AmericanMan1958 Sep 2016 #10
whatthehey Sep 2016 #11


Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Sun Sep 18, 2016, 03:26 PM

2. That's why they are deplorable, among other reasons

They are fueled by hatred and resentment, old grudges, feelings of insecurity, and envy. They cannot stand to see people of color get anything of value, such as education, careers, nice homes, happy families. Very mean spirited and unhappy people. Which goes to show that hatred makes you stupid.

Donald Trump reminds them every day of all the reasons why they should nurture hatred.

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Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Sun Sep 18, 2016, 03:28 PM

3. You don't make statements to them. You ask questions and watch them melt to shit. Such as:

 

If he wants to make America great, why does he make his ties and shirts in China and Mexico?

Why is your coward candidate hiding his tax returns?

Why is he hiding his charity records?

Why is he having a bromance with Vladimir Putin?

Why has he gone bankrupt and stiffed his contractors time and again?

You can't answer can you? You just lost Trumpite. Now go play with Don The Con.

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:56 AM

8. NONE of that matters to them

Every negative thing reported about Trump is dismissed as another lie from the "liberal media." They don't even bother to check things like that out. Their response is to attack the source, attack the person posting the information, and then declare victory.

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Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Sun Sep 18, 2016, 03:44 PM

4. Yes lib-tard is in their vocabulary

I hate bandwagons and childish insults. I try my best not to go there, but I've encountered a few of them myself. I sometimes comment on NBCnews articles. There's one named conservative genius. I like to tell him that his name is an oxymoron.
I also may have told him how sad and pathetic his life must be that he works for free trolling the Internet. I imagine him in a dark smoke filled room. The walls are covered in wood paneling. I imagine him sitting there in a polo shirt and gym shorts firing off about Obama, Clinton, "Mooslims", you name it... While Fox News plays all day long. I imagine he was a terrible father and his kids don't speak to him and that the last thread of his will to live depends on him pretending to contribute to this country by name calling online.

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Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Sun Sep 18, 2016, 04:38 PM

5. Angry voters have already checked their brains at the door. All of them.

 

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Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Sun Sep 18, 2016, 04:42 PM

6. You nailed it.

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Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Sun Sep 18, 2016, 04:43 PM

7. So this morning I tell off trump supporters on facebook

They see it plus they see all the likes I got

I think I scored for the good side

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Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 03:08 PM

9. It's important to refute their rantings and present facts solely for others to read.

It's not a waste of time. Be relentless.

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Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 03:43 PM

10. Being a old Veteran

Most of my Republican friend are Vets or know, I am.

I let them start the conversation, because I know they can't resist.

My answer is simple, "I didn't serve to hand this country over to Russia!" Thing get real quite after that. If they came back we normally have a great conversation and I push them to a third party. I know these A-holes well, they would never vote for Hillary.
I find "little is much" with this hateful group. But deep down in their hateful soul, Vet's still don't want to be associated with Communism!!

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Response to LuckyTheDog (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 04:19 PM

11. It's not for them

It's for the mushy apathetic middle who may vote on news coverage and yard signs. Once somebody has at this point made the willing decision that Trump is the best candidate based on objective evidence then there is no way to sanity from there. We are talking to others who may be able to hear still. That's why I just laugh, albeit derisively, at Trumperisms one on one, but refute in public.

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