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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:19 PM Sep 2016

Marquette University Wisconsin Poll - Clinton +2 LV, +5 RV

Never seen such a hyped poll! Watching their video where they are bloviating before getting to the numbers.

Not much changed from last time, where Clinton was +3 LV and +5 RV last month.

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Marquette University Wisconsin Poll - Clinton +2 LV, +5 RV (Original Post) democrattotheend Sep 2016 OP
I haven't heard anything about this poll. MoonRiver Sep 2016 #1
It has been hyped on DU gabeana Sep 2016 #2
They've been hyping it on Twitter for 2 days democrattotheend Sep 2016 #3
lack of polling re: Wisconsin, which could be a place where Trump makes a move (89% white) nt geek tragedy Sep 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author democrattotheend Sep 2016 #5
C 44 T 42 LV, C 43 T 38 RV democrattotheend Sep 2016 #6
Looks like she improved in RV Doctor Jack Sep 2016 #7
Lets hope they actually get out there and vote. LisaL Sep 2016 #15
Thanks. DarthDem Sep 2016 #12
She lost one point since last poll in August ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #8
Not great triron Sep 2016 #9
LOL at These Pollsters DarthDem Sep 2016 #10
Pollster had Obama only up +1 mid-October 2012, miraculously up +8 immediately prior alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #11
Zactly. DarthDem Sep 2016 #13
I give them a bit of leeway since it is a university poll. SaschaHM Sep 2016 #14
Not Really DarthDem Sep 2016 #16
Leeway on the big production. Screw poll-cooking. SaschaHM Sep 2016 #17
No one knows what date it was conducted molova Sep 2016 #18
Ugh. Wisconsin is kinda looking like a swing state. But it's great she's up. RAFisher Sep 2016 #19

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
3. They've been hyping it on Twitter for 2 days
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:21 PM
Sep 2016

Promised it at 12:15 pm, then pushed to 1:15, now going on and on

Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
6. C 44 T 42 LV, C 43 T 38 RV
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:24 PM
Sep 2016

Clinton down 1 point from August, Trump unchanged LV.
RV still 5 points like last month.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
12. Thanks.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:32 PM
Sep 2016

So that was the big news, eh?

Shorter version (without the absurd buildup): Trump ain't winning Wisconsin, nor will it be all that close, and Johnson is done.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
10. LOL at These Pollsters
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:29 PM
Sep 2016

It seems that for many of them, just releasing statistical samples isn't enough. Now we have to have grand unveiling ceremonies of polls to generate more attention, ad revenue, and the like. And as a bonus, quite a few pollsters can't seem to sample sensibly for some strange reason, leading to more drama surrounding . . . their next poll.

Dump isn't going to win Wisconsin. Period.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
11. Pollster had Obama only up +1 mid-October 2012, miraculously up +8 immediately prior
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:32 PM
Sep 2016

Obama won +8. Therefore, they're accurate.

It's a circus show through Halloween.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
13. Zactly.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:37 PM
Sep 2016

Back when anyone cared about the laughable Scott Razz, his "polling firm" would do the same thing, taking its thumb off the scale once the real purpose of attempting to drive a narrative was over, then suddenly release a normalized result in order to claim it was right all along.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
14. I give them a bit of leeway since it is a university poll.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:39 PM
Sep 2016

The more they get there name/material out there, the more attention their programs get. The more attention their programs get, the more applicants they get. I was dead set on applying to Duke, Columbia, and MIT, until I got a brochure detailing the programs at Yale and that turned out to be a natural fit.


Yeah, Trump isn't going to win WI. I can't help but think that there are some hard feelings left over from the primary that are boosting Johnson's numbers/keeping Clinton from going higher. I'd send Bernie on a University Tour if I were the campaign.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
16. Not Really
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:45 PM
Sep 2016

It's just Poll-Cooking 101. For the reasons you stated. Leeway should translate into adjusting the numbers toward common sense and historical trends. Not to mention that this poll has Feingold up by 5 or 6. Because there are tons of people who will vote Feingold/Trump, or something, don'tcha know.

RAFisher

(466 posts)
19. Ugh. Wisconsin is kinda looking like a swing state. But it's great she's up.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:52 PM
Sep 2016

Clinton has been doing pretty good at keeping here 270 EV firewall in tack. But only up 2%? Hard to call that safe for Clinton. Between this and Colorado are the two states Trump could damage the firewall.

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