2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMarquette University Wisconsin Poll - Clinton +2 LV, +5 RV
Never seen such a hyped poll! Watching their video where they are bloviating before getting to the numbers.
Not much changed from last time, where Clinton was +3 LV and +5 RV last month.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)What makes you think they are so hyped?
gabeana
(3,166 posts)this morning, that is what the OP might mean
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Promised it at 12:15 pm, then pushed to 1:15, now going on and on
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Response to democrattotheend (Original post)
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democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Clinton down 1 point from August, Trump unchanged LV.
RV still 5 points like last month.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)DarthDem
(5,255 posts)So that was the big news, eh?
Shorter version (without the absurd buildup): Trump ain't winning Wisconsin, nor will it be all that close, and Johnson is done.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Rump stayed the same
triron
(22,001 posts)but I admit I am somewhat relieved. Hopefully this improves after the debate Monday.
DarthDem
(5,255 posts)It seems that for many of them, just releasing statistical samples isn't enough. Now we have to have grand unveiling ceremonies of polls to generate more attention, ad revenue, and the like. And as a bonus, quite a few pollsters can't seem to sample sensibly for some strange reason, leading to more drama surrounding . . . their next poll.
Dump isn't going to win Wisconsin. Period.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Obama won +8. Therefore, they're accurate.
It's a circus show through Halloween.
DarthDem
(5,255 posts)Back when anyone cared about the laughable Scott Razz, his "polling firm" would do the same thing, taking its thumb off the scale once the real purpose of attempting to drive a narrative was over, then suddenly release a normalized result in order to claim it was right all along.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)The more they get there name/material out there, the more attention their programs get. The more attention their programs get, the more applicants they get. I was dead set on applying to Duke, Columbia, and MIT, until I got a brochure detailing the programs at Yale and that turned out to be a natural fit.
Yeah, Trump isn't going to win WI. I can't help but think that there are some hard feelings left over from the primary that are boosting Johnson's numbers/keeping Clinton from going higher. I'd send Bernie on a University Tour if I were the campaign.
DarthDem
(5,255 posts)It's just Poll-Cooking 101. For the reasons you stated. Leeway should translate into adjusting the numbers toward common sense and historical trends. Not to mention that this poll has Feingold up by 5 or 6. Because there are tons of people who will vote Feingold/Trump, or something, don'tcha know.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)molova
(543 posts)September what to September what?
RAFisher
(466 posts)Clinton has been doing pretty good at keeping here 270 EV firewall in tack. But only up 2%? Hard to call that safe for Clinton. Between this and Colorado are the two states Trump could damage the firewall.