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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:14 AM Sep 2016

Trump's ceiling seems to be 44% and his floor is around 34%, he

cannot win. He's been stuck in that 34-44 box the entire GE. I know press has to sell a horse race and the election will be close but with numbers like the ones above he cannot win.

I know someone will posts we cannot get complacent, but a vast majority of voters have no idea what DU is because they're not political junkies.

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jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
1. I hope you are right and you probably are but...
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:21 AM
Sep 2016

Based on similar logic from the vast majority of polling numbers Hillary's ceiling has not been a great deal higher rarely climbing into the high 40s. What most of the numbers seem to indicate is that while her lead is consistent there seem to be a lot of undecideds as ridiculous as that seems in this particular election.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
2. She needs to ask him policy detailed questions at the debate.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:24 AM
Sep 2016

And follow up on his none answers.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
3. I think there's no doubt
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:26 AM
Sep 2016

That she will focus on policy. That is where the differences are most stark... ie her strength his weakness. Some have argued she needs to make herself softer and more likable, but allowing it to be a cult of personality is playing his game.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
7. As in, "How do you like me now, Mr. Bin Laden?" Presidents need to be tough.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 01:37 PM
Sep 2016

She's very likeable as a person.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
4. Here's how we win in a landslide
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:41 AM
Sep 2016

I'm talking a landslide that gives us 54-55 Senate seats and we get within 5-6 seats of taking back the House.

1. A huge black turnout. Must be almost as big as 2008.
2. A huge turnout from Spanish speaking Hispanics (polls show it's pretty close between Hillary and Trump amongst English speaking Hispanics). But, she wins huge with the Spanish speaking.
3. The millenials that are now supporting either Johnson or Stein are persuaded to change their minds to vote for Hillary.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
6. It's not necessary if the goal is just
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:50 AM
Sep 2016

to elect Hillary.
But, if we want to give her a friendlier Congress to worth with, it is.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
9. I've seen multiple polls of the 18-34 yr olds supporting Johnson... time to relay what is platform
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 05:53 PM
Sep 2016

... really is about and it looks like a republicans for weed platform

Grown2Hate

(2,010 posts)
11. And, let's add, I've NEVER seen Trump above 50%.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 02:43 AM
Sep 2016

I have seen Hillary there (if only briefly, here and there, the point stands). GOTV and let's BURY this fascist pig!

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