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niyad

(113,279 posts)
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:25 PM Sep 2016

Trump Aide: Donald Trump Can Misuse Charity Funds However He Wants Since It’s All His Money, Silly

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Trump Aide: Donald Trump Can Misuse Charity Funds However He Wants Since It’s All His Money, Silly


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The eyes seem to follow your wallet around the room


We got yet another creative explanation Wednesday of why it’s perfectly OK for Donald Trump to have paid for lawsuit settlements, ugly portraits, and a loser f’ball player’s autographed helmet using funds from his charitable foundation: According to a longtime aide to the Trump family, it’s all just fine, because while the IRS might have rules about how charities can spend their money, Donald Trump earned that charity money fair and square in the first place, so he can do what he likes with it. Yes, you might want to apply some ibuprofen directly to your cerebral cortex before trying to think about that too hard (note: not real medical advice).

Lynne Patton, who works as a “senior assistant” to three of the adult Trumpenspawn and also serves as VP of Eric Trump’s very own charitable foundation — so you know she’s an expert on charities! — explained it all to the Des Moines Register:
“A lot of times Mr. Trump will give a speech somewhere or he’ll raise money in some way and he asks that that entity, instead of cutting a personal check to him, cut it to his charity,” Patton said. “That’s money that otherwise would’ve been in his personal account, right? So when he cuts a check from his foundation for let’s say, St. Jude, it is his money,” she added. “No ifs, ands or ways about it.”

Yr Wonkette is not even a tax attorney and that sounds extremely lame to us! However the money gets into the charitable foundation, we’re fairly sure that once it’s there, under IRS rules, it needs to be used for charitable purposes only, not buying ugly paintings — even at a charity auction — which go up in a lounge at your dumb golf course. Let’s look at Patton’s moneysplaining further:

Patton did not provide a specific example of a third-party payment that would have gone to Trump directly but was instead directed to the foundation. But she provided a hypothetical: a corporation paying Trump an honorarium for a speech, and Trump directing that payment to his foundation rather than his personal bank account. “There are corporations that hire him to give public speeches all the time,” she said. “Sometimes, he says ‘Hey, I’d rather you cut a check to my charity instead of cutting it to me.’ ”
When that happens, she said, it’s the equivalent of Trump making the charitable gift himself. “That’s his money going into his foundation,” Patton said. “Just because the check doesn’t say ‘Donald and Melania Trump, TD Bank or Chase Manhattan (Bank)’ doesn’t mean it’s not their money.”

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Now, for the sake of completeness, America’s Guide To the Trump Foundation, David Fahrenthold, took to the Twitters to ask some big donors if Ms. Patton’s theory explains their large donations to the Donald J. Trump Foundation:


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Trump Aide: Donald Trump Can Misuse Charity Funds However He Wants Since It’s All His Money, Silly (Original Post) niyad Sep 2016 OP
No, it is not allowed by law, he decided to set up the Trump Foundation and he steals from Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #1
reality and facts do not matter to drumpfy and co., nor to his supporters. niyad Sep 2016 #2
"Tis true, reality of a person unfit to be president has not reached them. Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #3
Broke Scarsdale Sep 2016 #15
your last sentence--based on the pictures we have seen, yes, and ewwwww. creepy. niyad Sep 2016 #24
Hillary should ask Trump his thoughts on the matter during the debate. oasis Sep 2016 #4
assuming that the lying, thieving, misogynistic coward shows up. niyad Sep 2016 #5
Trump knows it's better to show than to do 45 day tap dance. nt oasis Sep 2016 #6
Imposter Scarsdale Sep 2016 #16
He may show up... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #21
I thought we'd plumbed the depths of Trumpian stupidity, but there always seems to be another level alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #7
one would have to possess a sense of integrity, and two arcing brain cells, to be niyad Sep 2016 #8
They certainly do know how things work. That's why they cheat, and cheat, and cheat.... Moonwalk Sep 2016 #14
Paychecks Scarsdale Sep 2016 #17
The typical entitlement mentality of a spoiled brat...trump...he has had beachbumbob Sep 2016 #9
You mean including the taxes the thieving bastard would have paid had he got the jtuck004 Sep 2016 #10
Her justification describes a tax avoidance scheme... Princess Turandot Sep 2016 #11
If they knew, then they're engaging in a tax avoidance conspiracy alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #12
OK, one more time Donald . . . . no_hypocrisy Sep 2016 #13
That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works! n/t TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #18
Accountants? Scarsdale Sep 2016 #19
The thing is, a CPA can lose their license TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #22
seems that,,, Cryptoad Sep 2016 #20
Nice logic if you are within the drumpfster organizational scam enterprise perpetuating fraud. turbinetree Sep 2016 #23
This is the kind of person advising Trump's campaign NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #25
Maybe it's like when Romney Turbineguy Sep 2016 #26
"adult Trumpenspawn" Control-Z Sep 2016 #27
I know, I loved that one. niyad Sep 2016 #28

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. No, it is not allowed by law, he decided to set up the Trump Foundation and he steals from
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:39 PM
Sep 2016

it regularly for his own use. This is why he had to pay a fine for donating to Bondi campaign, a proven thief.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
15. Broke
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:34 PM
Sep 2016

He is close to broke, that is why he does this. Also, the reason he refuses to release his tax returns. Fake con man, criminal. His theme song should be "I love ME, I love ME, I'm MAD about myself" Only his daughter Ivanka gets his juices flowing, it seems.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
16. Imposter
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:36 PM
Sep 2016

Since there is nobody who even comes close to resembling this orange yam, he has to show up. Ghoulianni's makeup artist can only do so much.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
21. He may show up...
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:57 PM
Sep 2016

but I bet the "moderators" are going to let him do whatever the hell he wants. It will be a circus.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
7. I thought we'd plumbed the depths of Trumpian stupidity, but there always seems to be another level
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:01 PM
Sep 2016

Are these people adults? Grown adults? Do they have the foggiest idea how things work?

This is the explanation of a particularly stupid 10th grader: "It's his name on the Foundation! If somebody pays the Foundation rather than Trump himself, he can still use the money. It's practically the same as his own bank account!"

Honestly, this can't even be real. They want to put this cohort of sophomoric idiots and scammers in charge of the country? How can anybody with any sense of decency allow this? Republicans, too. Be honest, conservative lurkers: that's the shit stupidest thing you ever heard. BE HONEST! And yet this woman was appointed to be a VP of a non-profit by one of the Trump spawn, and his campaign allows her to speak on record with these nonsenses?

AREN'T YOU FUCKING EMBARRASSED BY THIS?

niyad

(113,279 posts)
8. one would have to possess a sense of integrity, and two arcing brain cells, to be
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:02 PM
Sep 2016

embarrassed by this swill.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
14. They certainly do know how things work. That's why they cheat, and cheat, and cheat....
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:15 PM
Sep 2016

Look, this is "Mob" mentality. Watch "Goodfellas": the wise guy knows the rules, but following them is for suckers. The wise guys goes around them, through them, under them. They do anything and everything to profit from not following the rules without getting caught.

Note, I'm not saying this aide knows how things work But I'd be very surprised if Trump and his family and crooked lawyers and such didn't know. They know very well how it all works. And they also know that most of America does *not* know how it works, and so they can often cheat and not be called on it, or talk their way out of going to jail for cheating, or bribe their way out, or pay the fine.

Are they adults? No. This is not the mentality of a mature, responsible adult. But the aide is an ignorant child, while the Trumps are criminals. Criminals know it's against the law. They take pride in the fact that they don't obey the law, and don't feel they have to obey it. Unlike all us suckers, they get away and profit from sticking it to the law.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
17. Paychecks
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:41 PM
Sep 2016

When tRump loses, and he will, their paychecks will bounce. THEN their true feeling will come spilling out. He has screwed over everyone who ever worked for him. Even reneged on a million dollar prize promised for a hole in one at a golf course. The winner had to settle for $148,000 after a court battle. tRump is a billionaire in his mind only. SHOW US THE MONEY!! He can't. there is none.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
9. The typical entitlement mentality of a spoiled brat...trump...he has had
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:19 PM
Sep 2016

His way for years buying off politicians and government employees....but this the big time and he no longer the big fish....

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
10. You mean including the taxes the thieving bastard would have paid had he got the
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:28 PM
Sep 2016

money without stealing it from a tax-sheltered source, money that was given to further the charitable goals of the 501c3 corp?

Jail.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
11. Her justification describes a tax avoidance scheme...
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:38 PM
Sep 2016

and it should be added to the questions about this foundation.

It also makes people wonder if the 'donors' involved were aware of what he was doing, although I suppose they had no way of knowing, officially at least, that he was paying his own obligations with the monies.

no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
13. OK, one more time Donald . . . .
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:02 PM
Sep 2016

You can spend any amount of money in your PERSONAL accounts. It's yours to do with as you wish.

You CAN'T spend money in your charity(ies) on personal expenses. Even if you put PERSONAL money into your CHARITY, you can't. That's because it's NO LONGER YOUR PERSONAL MONEY. It belongs to the charity(ies). Not to mention that it's equivalent to embezzling other people's money when they've donated to YOUR CHARITY. It's not to be confused with giving YOU (PERSONALLY) a GIFT.

Jesus, don't you listen to your accountants????

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
19. Accountants?
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:44 PM
Sep 2016

We already met his "doctor" It would be fun to meet his "accountants" to see just how goofy THEY are.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
22. The thing is, a CPA can lose their license
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:58 PM
Sep 2016

for filing a fraudulent return. They can even be prosecuted and sent to prison. I suppose Trump could make it worth their while.

This kind of rule bending/breaking just makes me think his whole presidential run is to shield himself from prosecution and perhaps to pay off his massive debt.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
23. Nice logic if you are within the drumpfster organizational scam enterprise perpetuating fraud.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:13 PM
Sep 2016

I can just just imagine this crew within the white house, thinking that the entire country paying taxes to support the country and the money is looked like some "charitable " contribution, and should be used to pay-off a criminal enterprise inside like say Russia and other countries depots, and used in some scheme to make the appearance it was used for something else, so with that logic we have this as logic;

“A lot of times Mr. Trump will give a speech somewhere or he’ll raise money in some way and he asks that that entity, instead of cutting a personal check to him, cut it to his charity,” Patton said. “That’s money that otherwise would’ve been in his personal account, right? So when he cuts a check from his foundation for let’s say, St. Jude, it is his money,” she added. “No ifs, ands or ways about it.”

NO lady that's not how it is suppose to work,








NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
25. This is the kind of person advising Trump's campaign
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:40 PM
Sep 2016

I normally hate using this word, but it applies to Lynne Patton: BIMBO.

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