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Trump Aide: Donald Trump Can Misuse Charity Funds However He Wants Since Its All His Money, Silly
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The eyes seem to follow your wallet around the room
We got yet another creative explanation Wednesday of why its perfectly OK for Donald Trump to have paid for lawsuit settlements, ugly portraits, and a loser fball players autographed helmet using funds from his charitable foundation: According to a longtime aide to the Trump family, its all just fine, because while the IRS might have rules about how charities can spend their money, Donald Trump earned that charity money fair and square in the first place, so he can do what he likes with it. Yes, you might want to apply some ibuprofen directly to your cerebral cortex before trying to think about that too hard (note: not real medical advice).
Lynne Patton, who works as a senior assistant to three of the adult Trumpenspawn and also serves as VP of Eric Trumps very own charitable foundation so you know shes an expert on charities! explained it all to the Des Moines Register:
A lot of times Mr. Trump will give a speech somewhere or hell raise money in some way and he asks that that entity, instead of cutting a personal check to him, cut it to his charity, Patton said. Thats money that otherwise wouldve been in his personal account, right? So when he cuts a check from his foundation for lets say, St. Jude, it is his money, she added. No ifs, ands or ways about it.
Yr Wonkette is not even a tax attorney and that sounds extremely lame to us! However the money gets into the charitable foundation, were fairly sure that once its there, under IRS rules, it needs to be used for charitable purposes only, not buying ugly paintings even at a charity auction which go up in a lounge at your dumb golf course. Lets look at Pattons moneysplaining further:
Patton did not provide a specific example of a third-party payment that would have gone to Trump directly but was instead directed to the foundation. But she provided a hypothetical: a corporation paying Trump an honorarium for a speech, and Trump directing that payment to his foundation rather than his personal bank account. There are corporations that hire him to give public speeches all the time, she said. Sometimes, he says Hey, Id rather you cut a check to my charity instead of cutting it to me.
When that happens, she said, its the equivalent of Trump making the charitable gift himself. Thats his money going into his foundation, Patton said. Just because the check doesnt say Donald and Melania Trump, TD Bank or Chase Manhattan (Bank) doesnt mean its not their money.
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Now, for the sake of completeness, Americas Guide To the Trump Foundation, David Fahrenthold, took to the Twitters to ask some big donors if Ms. Pattons theory explains their large donations to the Donald J. Trump Foundation:
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Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)it regularly for his own use. This is why he had to pay a fine for donating to Bondi campaign, a proven thief.
niyad
(113,279 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)He is close to broke, that is why he does this. Also, the reason he refuses to release his tax returns. Fake con man, criminal. His theme song should be "I love ME, I love ME, I'm MAD about myself" Only his daughter Ivanka gets his juices flowing, it seems.
niyad
(113,279 posts)oasis
(49,379 posts)niyad
(113,279 posts)oasis
(49,379 posts)Since there is nobody who even comes close to resembling this orange yam, he has to show up. Ghoulianni's makeup artist can only do so much.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but I bet the "moderators" are going to let him do whatever the hell he wants. It will be a circus.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Are these people adults? Grown adults? Do they have the foggiest idea how things work?
This is the explanation of a particularly stupid 10th grader: "It's his name on the Foundation! If somebody pays the Foundation rather than Trump himself, he can still use the money. It's practically the same as his own bank account!"
Honestly, this can't even be real. They want to put this cohort of sophomoric idiots and scammers in charge of the country? How can anybody with any sense of decency allow this? Republicans, too. Be honest, conservative lurkers: that's the shit stupidest thing you ever heard. BE HONEST! And yet this woman was appointed to be a VP of a non-profit by one of the Trump spawn, and his campaign allows her to speak on record with these nonsenses?
AREN'T YOU FUCKING EMBARRASSED BY THIS?
niyad
(113,279 posts)embarrassed by this swill.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)Look, this is "Mob" mentality. Watch "Goodfellas": the wise guy knows the rules, but following them is for suckers. The wise guys goes around them, through them, under them. They do anything and everything to profit from not following the rules without getting caught.
Note, I'm not saying this aide knows how things work But I'd be very surprised if Trump and his family and crooked lawyers and such didn't know. They know very well how it all works. And they also know that most of America does *not* know how it works, and so they can often cheat and not be called on it, or talk their way out of going to jail for cheating, or bribe their way out, or pay the fine.
Are they adults? No. This is not the mentality of a mature, responsible adult. But the aide is an ignorant child, while the Trumps are criminals. Criminals know it's against the law. They take pride in the fact that they don't obey the law, and don't feel they have to obey it. Unlike all us suckers, they get away and profit from sticking it to the law.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)When tRump loses, and he will, their paychecks will bounce. THEN their true feeling will come spilling out. He has screwed over everyone who ever worked for him. Even reneged on a million dollar prize promised for a hole in one at a golf course. The winner had to settle for $148,000 after a court battle. tRump is a billionaire in his mind only. SHOW US THE MONEY!! He can't. there is none.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)His way for years buying off politicians and government employees....but this the big time and he no longer the big fish....
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)money without stealing it from a tax-sheltered source, money that was given to further the charitable goals of the 501c3 corp?
Jail.
Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)and it should be added to the questions about this foundation.
It also makes people wonder if the 'donors' involved were aware of what he was doing, although I suppose they had no way of knowing, officially at least, that he was paying his own obligations with the monies.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Which is a federal felony charge.
no_hypocrisy
(46,088 posts)You can spend any amount of money in your PERSONAL accounts. It's yours to do with as you wish.
You CAN'T spend money in your charity(ies) on personal expenses. Even if you put PERSONAL money into your CHARITY, you can't. That's because it's NO LONGER YOUR PERSONAL MONEY. It belongs to the charity(ies). Not to mention that it's equivalent to embezzling other people's money when they've donated to YOUR CHARITY. It's not to be confused with giving YOU (PERSONALLY) a GIFT.
Jesus, don't you listen to your accountants????
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)We already met his "doctor" It would be fun to meet his "accountants" to see just how goofy THEY are.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)for filing a fraudulent return. They can even be prosecuted and sent to prison. I suppose Trump could make it worth their while.
This kind of rule bending/breaking just makes me think his whole presidential run is to shield himself from prosecution and perhaps to pay off his massive debt.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)the IRS lack the Nads to take Trump on!
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)I can just just imagine this crew within the white house, thinking that the entire country paying taxes to support the country and the money is looked like some "charitable " contribution, and should be used to pay-off a criminal enterprise inside like say Russia and other countries depots, and used in some scheme to make the appearance it was used for something else, so with that logic we have this as logic;
A lot of times Mr. Trump will give a speech somewhere or hell raise money in some way and he asks that that entity, instead of cutting a personal check to him, cut it to his charity, Patton said. Thats money that otherwise wouldve been in his personal account, right? So when he cuts a check from his foundation for lets say, St. Jude, it is his money, she added. No ifs, ands or ways about it.
NO lady that's not how it is suppose to work,
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I normally hate using this word, but it applies to Lynne Patton: BIMBO.
Turbineguy
(37,322 posts)misused all those peoples' retirements. It's a republican thing.