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Kablooie

(18,628 posts)
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 01:33 AM Sep 2016

I wonder if Hillary will debate him directly the way a debate is supposed to be?

A debate is supposed to be argument and discussion, not a simple call / response routine the way the other debates have been.

I have a feeling that Trump will try to control the debate by confusing issues and goading her to start attacking him personally. That brings the whole shebang down to his level and he will win.

Hillary's campaign ads have been completely playing by Trump's rules by focussing on personal attacks.
He set the personal attack tone and as long as the discussion stays there, he wins.

If she plays it like a real debate and directly confronts him on issues, person to person, it might throw him and she could start controlling the situation. The only way she will really win is by making him bluster and equivocate.

I hope she doesn't use this debate to continue complaining about how bad Trump will be and instead uses it to start demonstrating to everyone how good she will be.

That's the only way she will come out ahead.



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I wonder if Hillary will debate him directly the way a debate is supposed to be? (Original Post) Kablooie Sep 2016 OP
How is using his own words against him personal attacks? Foggyhill Sep 2016 #1
But still she needs to make the debate about HER. Kablooie Sep 2016 #4
These aren't really debates and with Trump there, she needs to stand her ground. Foggyhill Sep 2016 #5
It's no less "real" if they address an audience. unblock Sep 2016 #2
she used to talking to bill during their hard times so trump should be no bigee lol nt msongs Sep 2016 #3

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
1. How is using his own words against him personal attacks?
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 01:48 AM
Sep 2016

For example, if he calls her crooked and she responds that only one of them here is going to trial for fraud and racketeering..
Is that a personal attack? Not really.

If he calls her Foundation corrupt and she notes that that her foundation saves 11M lives, while he's
using charity money to pay his bills. Totally true. Is that a personal attack?

Even better, everything he attacks her on are basically projections for his own failings.
So, I'd turn it completely around.

If she calls him a bigot by pointing to his 1973 discrimination case or the birther mess, is that a personal attack?

If she calls him a unwitting agent of Russia for his NATO remark and links it to his knee deep Russia financial involvement and his campaign advisors Manafort, Flynn and Carter demonstrated link to Russian interests and positions, is that a personal attack.

In the case of Trump, policy and personal are intertwined, there is no separation; everything IS ABOUT HIM.

Kablooie

(18,628 posts)
4. But still she needs to make the debate about HER.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 02:10 AM
Sep 2016

Everything is anti-Trump with very little pro Hillary to balance the conversation.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
5. These aren't really debates and with Trump there, she needs to stand her ground.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 02:34 AM
Sep 2016

If she doesn't do that he'll blast over her.
So, she responds by using his words against him and then shows how she's different and better.

Attack from Trump about one of his own failings projected on her --> throw it back and show how she's different and better.

That way you get policy + retaliation and a win.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
2. It's no less "real" if they address an audience.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 02:00 AM
Sep 2016

Speeches in turn are one element of debate; cross-examination another. As long as there's opportunity to react to each other's statements, then it's a debate.

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