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What the hell is this? "All News Networks Have Refused To Fact Check Trump Live During The Debate" (Original Post) ailsagirl Sep 2016 OP
As recommended by phallon Sep 2016 #1
Except Bloomberg hertopos Sep 2016 #2
we need serious media reform. "news" is facts. period. bullimiami Sep 2016 #3
Amen! musicblind Sep 2016 #17
nah we lost that fight a long time ago with Faux news and their lawsuit. :( boomer55 Sep 2016 #21
Anyone is welcome to opine ad nauseum. My proposal is simple. bullimiami Oct 2016 #25
Directv - channel 353 Bloomberg will fact check asiliveandbreathe Sep 2016 #4
Thank you-- the implication is "facts are irrelevant" ailsagirl Sep 2016 #6
We have no news services. We have Infotainment Media Conglomerates Agnosticsherbet Sep 2016 #5
HRC will just have to do her own fact checking. vlyons Sep 2016 #7
And a diplomat - key - asiliveandbreathe Sep 2016 #11
"Live" isn't as important as afterward, so no big deal imo. greyl Sep 2016 #8
True ailsagirl Sep 2016 #9
But the "Fact Checking" of this debate has become such a huge story, greyl Sep 2016 #22
Disagree. Most people don't watch the follow up. They turn the TV off after the debate. Drunken Irishman Sep 2016 #10
I will watch the follow up... chillfactor Sep 2016 #13
I agree. But you're also a political junkie. Drunken Irishman Sep 2016 #23
Do you think people should depend on 1 source for fact checking? (bloomberg?!?) greyl Sep 2016 #14
But most people don't watch the whole thing, let alone afterward, so this is good. bettyellen Sep 2016 #20
Hillary should point out the first blatant lie, tavernier Sep 2016 #12
Now that might get them to intervene live! BSdetect Sep 2016 #16
That would be epic. n/t musicblind Sep 2016 #19
what did you expect? this is a M$M held "debate", wouldn't want lil Donnie to go home crying. Bill USA Sep 2016 #15
Just record all of Trumps statements and then add a LIE-O-METER. JoePhilly Sep 2016 #18
A short delayed feed to fact check. A fact check ticker at the bottom of the screen. sarcasmo Sep 2016 #24
Trump lies are so obvious as its 90% of what he says... beachbumbob Oct 2016 #26
They will have plenty to do afterwards Mz Pip Oct 2016 #27
Hillary's got this! agingdem Oct 2016 #28

hertopos

(833 posts)
2. Except Bloomberg
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:06 PM
Sep 2016

I am going to watch Bloomberg.

My day time job is financial planner and I am CFP.
I do not like MSNBC in many way and I usually check Bloomberg for markets and economy
related news. They also have more women talking heads.

Mr. Bloomberg himself is a billionaire but he is the most vocal anti-gun movement sponsor.
Not all billionaire is completely evil.

Hertopos

musicblind

(4,486 posts)
17. Amen!
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:32 PM
Sep 2016

News isn't meant to be entertaining, it is meant to be informative.

Imagine if we overhauled our school system in the same way we have overhauled out news media?

bullimiami

(13,110 posts)
25. Anyone is welcome to opine ad nauseum. My proposal is simple.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:32 AM
Oct 2016

News shows would have to be declared and registered as "News".
News broadcasts would have a name, label, bug, whatever, that informs viewers that this is "News".

"News" would be subject to a reality doctrine with penalties imposed for violation.

Early violation penalties could be as simple as the broadcast having to inform viewers that it has been caught violating the rules, and broadcast corrections in the same vein they broadcast the original. No 5 sec at midnight, oops.
Ill call that probation.
More serious or continued violations and that show would lose its "News" label.

Nothing else has to change. Noone has to pay any fines. The public would know if it says "News" it is required to be factual.

This still leaves plenty of leeway for interpretation but if they want to say black is white, white is black, 3 is 15.
BAM. You no longer have a "News" label.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
4. Directv - channel 353 Bloomberg will fact check
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:09 PM
Sep 2016

Others will see your thread and advise us of live stream online..I will keep looking....

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
5. We have no news services. We have Infotainment Media Conglomerates
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:10 PM
Sep 2016

In reality, there should be a meter that rates the factual content of each statement, live and in real time, so viewers can see an independent source.

We have reduced a debate to "She said/He said."

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
7. HRC will just have to do her own fact checking.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:11 PM
Sep 2016

She's capable of it. She knows her facts like the back of her hand. She'll probably start out very politely saying something like, "That's not accurate, Mr Trump." Then proceed to something like, "Once again Mr Trump, that's not accurate." Followed by, "Mr Trump, you can't just make up statements that aren't true. The American people need to know that their president understands the issues and the facts influencing policy decisions." Don't know if she'll call him a liar. Probably not, because that's impolite, and she's a lady and a diplomat.

I'm SURE that she will deal with his lies and BS. She has a strategy all worked out with how deal with it presidentially.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
11. And a diplomat - key -
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:19 PM
Sep 2016

Hillary has been around the world negotiating - understanding the people she has had to influence on policy...seems to me - trump only has one SOP - attack and dismiss...sorry dumpy trumpy, not this time, not this place, not this venue, more than your haters will be watching...and that's all ya' got..haters..

greyl

(22,990 posts)
8. "Live" isn't as important as afterward, so no big deal imo.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:12 PM
Sep 2016

People should pay attention to the 3 live people on stage, not the crawls.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
22. But the "Fact Checking" of this debate has become such a huge story,
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:49 PM
Sep 2016

that media will be competing with each other to be the best at it.

( That's the way it's supposed to work, anyhow )

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
10. Disagree. Most people don't watch the follow up. They turn the TV off after the debate.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:17 PM
Sep 2016

This is a big reason Trump was so successful in the Republican debates - he lied throughout the entire debate and, when things finally ended, the audience turned things off and didn't hear the inevitable questioning of his facts.

Some will remain, but on the whole, I'd wager once it's finished, the TVs come off.

tavernier

(12,410 posts)
12. Hillary should point out the first blatant lie,
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:21 PM
Sep 2016

and if Holt doesn't acknowledge agreement, come the second lie she should direct the viewing audience to turn to Bloomberg where fact checkers are monitoring both candidates.

That will put NBC in a tizzy.

BSdetect

(8,999 posts)
16. Now that might get them to intervene live!
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:29 PM
Sep 2016

That would be a hilarious moment.

Hope she does just that.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
15. what did you expect? this is a M$M held "debate", wouldn't want lil Donnie to go home crying.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:27 PM
Sep 2016

I think Hillary should come in with one of those "clown" horns . She should squeeze it whenever the King of Clowns utters one of his doozies.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
18. Just record all of Trumps statements and then add a LIE-O-METER.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:32 PM
Sep 2016

Its a perfect advertisement.

You could let it run in fast-forward mode, with counter that goes "ding", and then announce the final, "Lies per minute" score.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
26. Trump lies are so obvious as its 90% of what he says...
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:04 AM
Oct 2016

Besides he will never get pass insulting those who's votes he needs

Mz Pip

(27,454 posts)
27. They will have plenty to do afterwards
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:10 AM
Oct 2016

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All the fact checking they will be doing after the debate will keep them busy until after the election.

agingdem

(7,869 posts)
28. Hillary's got this!
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:13 AM
Oct 2016

She is more than capable of calling trump out on his lies during the debates. She is smart, savvy, and surrounds herself with the best of the best. She's taken crap from the media most of her adult life. She knows how to get under his very thin very orange skin. He's a narcissistic sociopath...a bully..and every time she punches him in the face (figuratively speaking) he runs home to Fox. Like I said she's got this.

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