2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFirst I lose Mel, then Clint, now Jon - I'm not going to have any old movies left at this rate.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/donald-trump-is-no-liar-watch-actor-john-voights-bonkers-explanation-for-voting-trump/Jon Voight goes off the deep end Monday night as he tells Cavuto:
In defense of Trump, the Deliverance actor accused major newspapers like The New York Times and The Washington Post of joining the liars of the world because they had recently called out the unprecedented rate at which the Republican candidate lied.
Hes an extraordinary fellow, Voight opined. He goes from place to place across the country, and at the end of maybe a 12-hour day, 14-hour day, hes as clear and as strong as when he started in the morning at 7:30 or whatever it is.
Voight said that he was also impressed with how Trump gave a pat on the back to the guy ran his teleprompter after speeches.
Donald Trump has no blood on his hands as does [Hillary Clinton], Voight continued. Remember Benghazi, remember Benghazi. And I can tell you this, one thing you can be sure of is Donald Trump is no liar.
First I had to dump all my Lethal Weapon movies...then all my Dirty Harry flicks. Now I gotta dump Enemy of the State, Deliverance and Midnight Cowboy ? Pretty soon I'll be left with Funny Girl and Wait Until Dark.
Sheesh.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Bat shit crazy
BootinUp
(47,144 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)CincyDem
(6,358 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)He's been saying stuff like that for years, been in the RW "comedy" bomb An American Carol in 2008, etc.
riversedge
(70,218 posts)Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)Hes a mildly interesting character actor, nothing more, nothing less.
Inostly dont let it effect my viewing, they have the right to be functioning idiots lije anyone else.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)but that's just me.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I can separate the fictional character from the actor. It really is that simple.
LisaM
(27,811 posts)at the 30-minute point of a 90-minute debate.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)celebrities are because it spoils their shows for me. Knowing that actors lack the character and/or intellect to be, or even understand, the characters they play, I can't just lose myself in enjoyment.
Voight plays clever, sophisticated people these days, for heaven's sake, not fools. And until now and checking out your post, I had no idea he was Angelina Jolie's father. The way I strongly prefer it to be.
reflection
(6,286 posts)Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)This isn't helping me become one...
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)All those actors and musicians etc
Cretins all.
Just a inkling that most are for drumph.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)Hey John! Remember Iraq? More lives lost there than Benghazeeeee!
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I can enjoy them for the entertainment sake if the movie is good enough.
I can't stand people that are also awful actors like theat Hercules whatever his name is.
Or Chachi.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)It's not like it is a one man show for Jon Voight only. Those movies feature other actors, screenwriters, directors. Plus the stories themselves are still worthwhile regardless of who is playing the roles.
Never understood the logic of boycotting entire movies just because there is one actor who you disagree with on politics. Conservatives do this all the time. I don't get it. You miss out on a lot of good movies that way.
Jon Voight is a complete idiot. That being said, he's not a horrible actor and he's been in some good movies.
Unless it's someone who is so entirely loathsome that you can't possibly watch the movie or show (for instance, if I actually did enjoy The Apprentice--which I didn't--I don't think I could ever watch anything prominently featuring Donald Trump ever again), it's not worth your time to boycott.
LeftRant
(524 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Or turn them into TV shows, like what's happening with Lethal Weapon. So there's one bright side to consider.
ReformedGOPer
(478 posts)Ray Donovan.
CincyDem
(6,358 posts)Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)Both of them are/were unapologetic progressives, great actors, and real badasses by anyone's criteria. They also made a ton of really good movies.
MOST good actors have liberal or progressive values due to a quality called empathy. It's what makes them good actors. Being able to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)VALDEZ IS COMING and ULZANA'S RAID - caught both this year. Really delivered. And Kirk will always have OUT OF THE PAST.
oasis
(49,383 posts)ran to unseat racist L.A. mayor, Sam Yorty.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)Burt plays a Nazi doctor on trial for war crimes in that movie.
I went into it the first time thinking, "Burt Lancaster? A Nazi? How miscast could someone be?"
Well, what did I know? He was fucking AMAZING in that movie. Absolutely riveting every minute he's on screen. Everyone in that movie was unbelievably good. Even William Shatner compels in the little role that he has.
Burt Lancaster was great in everything he did. I seem to recall that the McCarthyites went after him, too, and he basically told them to fuck off.
oasis
(49,383 posts)and Lancaster.
dflprincess
(28,076 posts)A fictionalized account of JFK's assassination (screenplay by Dalton Trumbo & Mark Lane).
It's just full of Hollywood "lefties".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070046/
oasis
(49,383 posts)his real name with the blockbuster film "Spartacus".
dflprincess
(28,076 posts)crossed a picket line of American Legion types who wanted the movie pulled because of Trumbo. When leaving the movie, all Kennedy said was something like "Good movie, everyone should see it."
Very subtle, no comments about the Blacklist, but he got his point across. (This was shown in the movie "Trumbo", and is accurate, though I didn't catch the Kennedy was president-elect at the time.)
oasis
(49,383 posts)Happy birthday to a great American actor and exceptional individual.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)I will definitely look for it.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Because they don't agree with you?
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Some of us are less than amenable to a fucking Trump presidency and those who would actively or passively promote such fucking lunacy. Some of us regard such assholes as a waste of organic matter.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)If you look at his recent credits he's in the same league with Antonio Sabato Jr.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)was behind it..Do not want to give that man a dime of my money. He was so disrespectful to President Obama. He made some nutty comments this year too.
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)If you look at it, most of the actors who played lawmen tend to become right-wing, perhaps thinking civilization is going to hell as reflected in their lifelong roles. - John Wayne, Chuck Norris, Randolph Scott also (despite the LGBT rumors with Cary). I'm straight (as far as I know) but RS looked like I wanted to look when i was a kid.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)I learned that actors, directors, and producers can be idiots.
But for fun, while we know how Clint Eastwood would vote, do you think that "The Man With No Name" would vote likewise? Maybe he'd decide that a Methodist grandmother would make a better President than Donald Thump.
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)The Man With No Name would ride into town and see the town run by the KOCH brothers gang and the TRUMP gang and play them off against each other. But I'm an idealist (and a real screenwriter).
johnp3907
(3,731 posts)You're welcome.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)quickesst
(6,280 posts).... affect my enjoyment of well portrayed characters or musical artists. How many here have republican family and friends but still love them and talk to them? What? I have a brother who is as die-hard a republican as one can get. I still talk to him. I still love him, and that will never change. I won't cut him out of my life because of that. What amazes me is most people know that Jon Voight has been a rabid right-winger for more years than I can count and they are just now going to quit watching his movies? My favorite Jon Voight movie is The Champ. Guess what? Finding out that he is a right winger does not somehow alter the movie or his portrayal of his character. I think it's still a great movie.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)Cat Scratch Fever and Wang Dang Sweet Poontang are two of the greatest pieces of musical artistry that have ever descended on rock music. Why the hell isn't this man in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... has their opinion on what is good music and what is not. While I respect that, I have to say that I am not a Ted Nugent fan. If I had one exception to my opinion he would probably be it. I think he's a right-wing, batshit crazy, low-information fool, but that is not why I am not a fan of his music. I simply don't care for it. But like I said, to each his own.
GCP
(8,166 posts)This, for instance?
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)/s
tymorial
(3,433 posts)The entertainment industry and yet we respect the opinions of these people over individuals who are experts in their field. Why do we allow their opinion, beliefs and (to a lesser extent) actions dictate our choice of entertainment?
Bruce Willis is a conservative but Die Hard will be on my television this Christmas Eve.
dflprincess
(28,076 posts)Voight plays a right wing tool in that so at least he's true to type.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)about having been a dove on Vietnam. It's one thing to say that things were bad in Vietnam for the first few years after reunification, but it's weird that he seemingly decided that life there would be better if the US had just kept bombing the place.
leanforward
(1,076 posts)Dear John, Clint, Mel . . . . .
JI7
(89,249 posts)I think for Eastwood it's a mix of being senile and confusion over film and real life.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)Especially if its a old move or album I've liked for years.
Billy Corgan, is a right winger but I love the Smashing Pumpkins.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)and forget where they came from.
People tell them they are special and they begin to believe it.
They become libertarians or republicans because, I got mine..fuck you.
Why do the rich love to hurt poor people? I will never figure it out.
Bucky
(54,013 posts)Pretty soon, all you'll be able to do is sit in the dark and watch reruns of Frasier on TBS...
.
D'Oh!!
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)Just learn to separate the two.
Though, to be honest, Cat Stevens' support of the fatwa on Rushdie pretty much permanently soured his music on me.
DFW
(54,378 posts)He hasn't gone off the deep end. He's been there for decades. It's been a long time since "Conrack."