Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

brooklynite

(94,513 posts)
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:03 PM Sep 2016

A retrospective on the first Presidential Debate...

A number of people have asked me to jot down some comments on my opportunity to attend Monday's Presidential debate (sorry ofr the delay; I teach at NYU on Tuesday evening and had a standing dinner commitment last night).

BACKGROUND

Why was I at the debate? Because, for more than a year, my wife and I have been hosting Clinton campaign staff in our house (one of the closest to HQ). We've have an interesting bunch of Administrative, technical and political people come through, and we're apparently well-known at HQ. So, when Hofstra was abruptly added to the schedule, I wasn't going to miss an opportunity to ask.

THE SETTING

The debate was in the Mack Center (read: wealthy donor) at Hofstra University in Nassau County. For security reasons, the entire campus was closed off (I don't know where the Green Party protests and the campaign "visibility" were occurring; I never saw them) and everyone met at the adjacent "Cradle of Aviation" Museum (fun fact: Garden City is where Charles Lindbergh took off on his flight to Paris, and where Grumman designed and built the Apollo Lunar Modules) for ticketing and security checks, before being bused over. In the very long long to get processed I got a sense of the crowd (1/3 of the tickets went to each campaign, with 1/3 going to Hofstra; about 275 students, chosen by lottery, were in the room). Most local electeds were there (I ran into House Members Sean Maloney, Steve Israel, Joe Crowley and Jerry Nadler whom I know; I saw from a distance Senator Schumer and Rudy Giuliani; and I'm told Governor Cuomo and Mayor De Blasio were there), along with a lot of major campaign funders and old acquaintances (I stood in line with two people who went to Law School with B&H. After going through airline security, we were put on buses and taken over to the event site, which was festooned with a Hall of Presidents exhibit from C-SPAN. I was sitting in the back risers, directly behind the NBC booth (which you probably only saw for 1/2 second at the start of the show before the lights came down). I had a clear view of the CNN booth where Mike Pence was having makeup applied (learned the lesson from Nixon?) for an interview with CNN.

Before the networks came on, there were various introductions by the Commission Co-Chairs and Hofstra. Some people complain that the Commission shouldn't be doing these; all I can say is that the former head of the LWV is on their Board. Attendees were admonished not to express themselves pro or con, and not to take any photos or use any tech devices during the broadcast. Then Bill came in (no sign of Chelsea) and did Melania and the kiddies.

THE DEBATE

You probably had a better view than I did; we didn't have the advantage of closeups and split-screens, but I wouldn't have traded the opportunity to be in the room for anything. One observation I had was that Trump was notably taller; I read that Clinton would have a step to stand on to equalize the difference, but from what I could see, she was standing on the stage. I think Trump actually did well for the first 30 minutes (my Clinton contacts) concur, but then he fell into the obvious traps Hillary set for him. You certainly heard the occasional outbursts; I joined in several times when it was impossible to stay silent.

AFTERWARDS

The debate ended at 10:45 and I had an hour drive back to the city, so I immediately ran for the buses, and ended up sitting next to Sen. Corey Booker who thought she'd done brilliantly. I got home around midnight, having avoided any of the spin and punditry, but you all know what the outcome was.

POSTSCRIPT

I had a chance to speak to one of my Clinton contacts; they're very happy with the outcome, AND they're working on and prepared for the Town Hall debate. Stay tuned.

18 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
A retrospective on the first Presidential Debate... (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2016 OP
Nice summary! Glad you got to go and appreciate the first hand account. n/t hlthe2b Sep 2016 #1
Thank you for your account of your personal expierence Gothmog Sep 2016 #2
He said this at the end of his OP : tblue37 Sep 2016 #5
Thanks for sharing... 2naSalit Sep 2016 #3
New Yawkah trivia: but what was the name of the airport Lindbergh took off from? alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #4
Roosevelt Field had a horse racetrack for many years, too (n/t) PJMcK Sep 2016 #11
Thank y ou canetoad Sep 2016 #6
Thanks for this summary! BlueMTexpat Sep 2016 #7
Thank you. I'd been looking for your report. lamp_shade Sep 2016 #8
Thanks DeminPennswoods Sep 2016 #9
. randome Oct 2016 #18
Appreciate the write-up lillypaddle Sep 2016 #10
Terrific experience PJMcK Sep 2016 #12
Another question PJMcK Sep 2016 #13
Thanks for the great summary! phylny Sep 2016 #14
Thank you so much for sharing, brooklynite! Regarding height, it looked to me as though Hillary had Hekate Oct 2016 #15
Her podium was 1.5 inches shorter, per request by her campaign. ehrnst Oct 2016 #16
Thank you! colorado_ufo Oct 2016 #17

Gothmog

(145,154 posts)
2. Thank you for your account of your personal expierence
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:40 PM
Sep 2016

I am truly jealous. I love your comments and it sounds like she had a great time.

One question, did you abide by the rules and did you make some noise at the end of the debate? I heard some great back up for Sec. Clinton at the end of the debate

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
5. He said this at the end of his OP :
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:47 AM
Sep 2016
You certainly heard the occasional outbursts; I joined in several times when it was impossible to stay silent.

2naSalit

(86,577 posts)
3. Thanks for sharing...
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:31 AM
Sep 2016

Wish I could have been in your shoes for just that part of the evening, during the debate that is.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
4. New Yawkah trivia: but what was the name of the airport Lindbergh took off from?
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:38 AM
Sep 2016

It was, of course, Roosevelt Field, which has been, for as long as I can remember, one of the main shopping malls in Nassau County.

DeminPennswoods

(15,285 posts)
9. Thanks
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 05:19 AM
Sep 2016

I was looking forward to reading your account. FYI, you have one typo in the last sentence of your "Setting" section that makes that sentence unintentionally funny.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. .
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 06:04 AM
Oct 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
[/center][/font][hr]

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
12. Terrific experience
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:46 PM
Sep 2016

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, brooklynite. It must have felt like you were in the presence of history.

How did the crowd behave before and after the debate? Were there any partisan attitudes observable?

Last note: you and your wife are awesome for your support of the Clinton campaign. It sounds like you were putting people up in your home. Thanks for helping way more than most of us can!

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
13. Another question
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:48 PM
Sep 2016

CNN apparently just reported that there was, in fact, a problem with Donald Trump's microphone but it was only in the mix going to the house speakers. Did you notice anything wrong with the audio in the auditorium?

phylny

(8,380 posts)
14. Thanks for the great summary!
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:09 PM
Sep 2016

I'm originally from West Hempstead (my dad still lives there in the same house) and used to work in Garden City. Hence the "ny" in my username

Hekate

(90,662 posts)
15. Thank you so much for sharing, brooklynite! Regarding height, it looked to me as though Hillary had
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 07:23 PM
Oct 2016

...a podium adjusted for her size. As a short person myself, I notice such details. She was posed far enough away from Donald that it looked quite natural -- the only way I could tell was that she seemed to be proportionally the same in relation to her podium as he was in relation to his.

I find it obnoxious when some candidates (male or female) are dwarfed by their podium, practically with their chin on the edge, while others physically loom over the scenery. Senator Barbara Boxer, who is really petite, has always dealt with this issue by travelling with "Barbara's Box" to stand on. For presidential debates, the planners need to be better than that, and it looks like they were this time.

Thanks again for helping so much with the campaign, and for sharing!

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
16. Her podium was 1.5 inches shorter, per request by her campaign.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:26 PM
Oct 2016

Trump's was as tall as it would go.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
17. Thank you!
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 05:04 AM
Oct 2016

Most of us will never get the chance to have this type of experience, and you made me feel as if I were there. It was very generous of you to take the time to share with us.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»A retrospective on the fi...