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FL & NV turned blue yesterday, NC will probably today, OH soon after (Original Post) ffr Sep 2016 OP
Nice but I'll believe it when I see it on 11/8/16. muntrv Sep 2016 #1
That's the poll that matters ffr Sep 2016 #2
Thanks! Where was this? bettyellen Sep 2016 #16
Ohio is very strong for Trump at this point. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #3
Very strong? Doesn't appear so. ffr Sep 2016 #4
Right now, as I type this, PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #7
That's probability of winning - not vote margins AJH032 Sep 2016 #8
On the now cast, polls only, or polls plus? moda253 Sep 2016 #9
I'm looking at the polls only. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #11
wrong. jcgoldie Sep 2016 #10
Even as a probability it's scary PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #12
It has already flipped on the nowcast jcgoldie Sep 2016 #13
But the election isn't being held today. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #14
no they don't jcgoldie Sep 2016 #15
Ohio is very tight and at the moment moving toward Hillary. yellowcanine Sep 2016 #17
Yeah, I Don't Agree With That At All DarthDem Sep 2016 #5
My favorite color! Cracklin Charlie Sep 2016 #6
Don't discount AZ/GA due to demographics and suburbanites Dawson Leery Sep 2016 #18

ffr

(22,669 posts)
2. That's the poll that matters
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:29 PM
Sep 2016

On a personal note, I was swamped last night with volunteer cards and voter registrations to enter, of the demographic that they were mostly college students. HFA had a very good day yesterday as more people showed they were behind Hillary. The HFA office staff was overjoyed and it showed.

People are very excited by how things are going just before state voter registration deadlines. The first debate set all this into motion going into the campaign's home stretch. I'm feeling it too.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
4. Very strong? Doesn't appear so.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:42 PM
Sep 2016


HRC campaign is campaigning there for several days next week, right at the same time all trending forecasts show she can win there.

www.democraticunderground.com/12512456406

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,852 posts)
7. Right now, as I type this,
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:54 PM
Sep 2016

538 is giving 45.3% for Hillary, 54.7% for Donald. That's landslide territory.

We can certainly hope that those numbers change significantly between now and November 8, but 9 points is a lot.

AJH032

(1,124 posts)
8. That's probability of winning - not vote margins
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:11 PM
Sep 2016

Just FYI 538 is giving Trump a 54.7% chance of winning the state, as of right now, if the election were held today. It's not saying he's going to win with 54.7% of the vote. So, it's actually very close.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,852 posts)
12. Even as a probability it's scary
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:18 PM
Sep 2016

that he has a 54% chance of winning Ohio. That still says that at this point in time more Ohio voters say they'll vote for him. I sincerely hope that changes.

I find it almost unbelievable that more than about 30% of the voting public could possibly vote for Donald.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
13. It has already flipped on the nowcast
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:27 PM
Sep 2016

Which means if the election were held today 538 projects she would win OH. I agree that its a shame 40+% of the population will vote for il cheeto duce, but welcome to our polarized sexist fox news and talk radio inspired society.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,852 posts)
14. But the election isn't being held today.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:34 PM
Sep 2016

And the polls and polls plus forecast still give Trump a strong chance of winning.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
15. no they don't
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:42 PM
Sep 2016

Once again 54% is pretty close to even. Your "landslide" comment was ridiculous and still is as many here have pointed out. And none of that even touches the point that Ohio is icing for HRC. He needs it, she don't.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
17. Ohio is very tight and at the moment moving toward Hillary.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:14 PM
Sep 2016

The polls only forecast does not account for differences in the ground game, which also favors Hillary - by a lot. If the race is within a couple of points either way on election day I think she wins Ohio.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
5. Yeah, I Don't Agree With That At All
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:45 PM
Sep 2016

Anyone - including the author of that piece yesterday or today in Time magazine or whatever - who thinks Ohio is some settled question is, in my humble opinion, jumping the gun and completely wrong.
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