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piechartking

(617 posts)
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 06:24 AM Oct 2016

Morning Joe: Unwatchable Today

Non-stop defense of Trump not paying taxes (legal, not an issue, Clinton is just like him - except not as open)

Ohio, Ohio, Ohio - (Because Trump is leading)

PA is close (Conveniently leaving out the F&M +9 Clinton poll)

Nothing about the national polls and the swings toward Clinton.

Basically, Fuck you Mika and Joe.

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Morning Joe: Unwatchable Today (Original Post) piechartking Oct 2016 OP
Yep, changed the channel Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #1
I did too, lasted about one minute..n/t monmouth4 Oct 2016 #3
Me too. I changed channels as soon as they started fawning over him. sarae Oct 2016 #16
Hell Yeah! Retired George Oct 2016 #2
They're trying to rehabilitate Trump's campaign so it stays a horse race scheming daemons Oct 2016 #4
I Know what you mean FL_Jerry Oct 2016 #5
I guess adulters stick together. nt One of the 99 Oct 2016 #6
Unwatchable? GWC58 Oct 2016 #7
I turned it off myself. I couldn't take anymore of their sack of shiite. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #8
been unwatchable for a while... whttevrr Oct 2016 #9
Did you notice... WiffenPoof Oct 2016 #10
I agree the voice of reason Ghost of Tom Joad Oct 2016 #13
WWhat happened to Mika during her time in France? spiderpig Oct 2016 #11
That's actally a joke. Joe says it all the time and I don't know why. It's stupid. CTyankee Oct 2016 #36
Yes I just noticed that. What the H is up? classykaren Oct 2016 #12
You mean people can't stand Republican Joe the Intern Killer? Color me shocked. JTFrog Oct 2016 #14
Fits their pattern Funtatlaguy Oct 2016 #15
I was a little shocked that sarae Oct 2016 #17
I turned that shit off years ago. titaniumsalute Oct 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author DeminPennswoods Oct 2016 #19
Chris seemed quite excited last night in thinking about how Trump could win. Akamai Oct 2016 #27
but no one would watch for the next month AlbertCat Oct 2016 #29
but when you think about it, it's a good thing to say... ginnyinWI Oct 2016 #31
Rachel was pushing the idea of a 269-269 EV tie, so clearly, the marching bullwinkle428 Oct 2016 #35
Unwatchable Today Today? Grins Oct 2016 #20
Merely today? JHB Oct 2016 #21
I think they don't want to appear to be biased so they're taking a day to bash Hillary. Vinca Oct 2016 #22
Yep. They are contrarians, just trying to be top narrative drivers Rose Siding Oct 2016 #23
The GOP & Trump probably threatened them with censure if they did not tow the fascist party line. TheBlackAdder Oct 2016 #24
I swap channels when they come on duncang Oct 2016 #25
It's all about $$$$$'s. MSNBC thinks this will stir anxiety and more will view MSNBC. M$M RKP5637 Oct 2016 #26
Is Ohio a lost cause? oberliner Oct 2016 #28
That should be the show's new marketing strategy tag-line. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #30
Yep I turned it off after 25 minutes of Babble...... onecent Oct 2016 #32
As attractive as it is to attack Mika and France for her BIG CHANGE, I am reminded downeastdaniel Oct 2016 #33
All part of the same pattern Saviolo Oct 2016 #34
+1 ronnie624 Oct 2016 #38
I always think of: Saviolo Oct 2016 #39
Capitalist ideology is pure theology, with no logical or moral underpinnings, whatsoever. ronnie624 Oct 2016 #40
Ohio BSdetect Oct 2016 #37

sarae

(3,284 posts)
16. Me too. I changed channels as soon as they started fawning over him.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:11 AM
Oct 2016

I'm sure you're right about them patching things up – maybe he paid them off? They're so fickle.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
4. They're trying to rehabilitate Trump's campaign so it stays a horse race
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 06:33 AM
Oct 2016

Joe and Mike do this every time Trump starts to collapse.

FL_Jerry

(25 posts)
5. I Know what you mean
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 06:39 AM
Oct 2016

I had to turn it off after the first 5 minutes. Notice they didn't say squat about FL which was the opposite of OH but far more damaging for Trump. I fell asleep watching the re-run of Rachel so when I woke up greeted by that #$#!@ acting like Trump is the "default" choice of voters. Sad thing is she had me ticked off too acting like the VP debate could turn it around for Trump.

To be fair to her, I fell asleep before I she actually got to the point which seems to happen quite a bit with her build ups!

As far as their comments on the "Taxes", they also fail to point out that if he was so truthful about it, he would have just released them instead of making up this story after they were leaked.



GWC58

(2,678 posts)
7. Unwatchable?
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 06:45 AM
Oct 2016

For me it's "never watchable!" Maybe, just maybe I'll watch AFTER THE ELECTION! Mika is a Dem? Really!?! She's definitely what I'd call "wishywashy!

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
9. been unwatchable for a while...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 06:51 AM
Oct 2016

I used to watch "Way Too Early" just so I could switch the channel before "Morning Joe" came on. Now I just make sure my cable box is not tuned to that station before the show comes on. I don't want to give them any ratings numbers at all.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
10. Did you notice...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 06:54 AM
Oct 2016

...Robinson trying to reason with Joe?. He was trying to counter the pro-Trump leanings of the rest. Willie also making the point that there is no more wiggle room in the electorate.

Ghost of Tom Joad

(1,355 posts)
13. I agree the voice of reason
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 06:59 AM
Oct 2016

had to be shut down. I had to turn to the weather channel. I wonder if they ever got around to the mentioning of Trumps dissing of vets with PTSD? And yesterday they were complaining of no polls and now the polls show Trump behind and they make it sound like he's 20 points ahead.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
36. That's actally a joke. Joe says it all the time and I don't know why. It's stupid.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:10 AM
Oct 2016

Mika's tried to stop him for saying it on a few occasions but now has probably given up. She had the day off yesterday.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
14. You mean people can't stand Republican Joe the Intern Killer? Color me shocked.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:03 AM
Oct 2016

He is always unwatchable. In fact, this year is pretty much the first time I've ever seen so many DUer's posting his crap here. Most of those folks have moved on to another site now.

Funtatlaguy

(10,882 posts)
15. Fits their pattern
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:07 AM
Oct 2016

They set up a different narrative each day to follow.
What was funny today was that Willie, Barnicle, and Eugene didn't get the morning memo.
All three pushed back with facts against the hosts making them look stupid.
Rare that this happens that these guys just don't kiss up to Americas cutest home wrecking couple.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
17. I was a little shocked that
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:14 AM
Oct 2016

as soon as they started discussing the polls, which show Clinton leading almost every single one, Joe started spinning it to say that she should be much farther ahead.

LOLWUT.

She could be leading 95 to 5 and Joe would say, "Why is she struggling with 5% of voters? She obviously can't get the job done."

Response to piechartking (Original post)

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
27. Chris seemed quite excited last night in thinking about how Trump could win.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 08:48 AM
Oct 2016

Almost as though the thrill down his leg is back.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
29. but no one would watch for the next month
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:01 AM
Oct 2016

Why watch now? What reason is there?

"Trump says/does something stupid" is hardly news. Let us know when Trump acts like an adult. That would be news.

Hillary is Hillary....has been and will continue to be.


What news?

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
31. but when you think about it, it's a good thing to say...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:06 AM
Oct 2016

I know they are doing it for ratings. But there is a better reason: don't give Clinton supporters any excuse to not bother to go out and vote. Keep them thinking it is a very close race, and they will be sure to vote.

Even PBS is saying this, so let them. It's a good thing.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
35. Rachel was pushing the idea of a 269-269 EV tie, so clearly, the marching
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:25 AM
Oct 2016

orders have been handed down to all of the hosts.

Vinca

(50,285 posts)
22. I think they don't want to appear to be biased so they're taking a day to bash Hillary.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:47 AM
Oct 2016

How did Hillary manage to lose a billion dollars in a year anyway?

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
23. Yep. They are contrarians, just trying to be top narrative drivers
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 08:14 AM
Oct 2016

Previous weeks saw them really going after Donald. Now that he's screwing up everything,and his past screw-ups are gaining coverage, they are actually using the term 'liberal media'.

"Basically, Fuck you Mika and Joe." Well put!

duncang

(1,907 posts)
25. I swap channels when they come on
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 08:38 AM
Oct 2016

I make sure it isn't on that channel in the morning during that time slot. Don't want to help any on their ratings.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
26. It's all about $$$$$'s. MSNBC thinks this will stir anxiety and more will view MSNBC. M$M
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 08:45 AM
Oct 2016

doesn't give a F about anything but $$$$$'s. Hell, M$M today would've supported Hitler if they thought it would've fatten their bottom line.

downeastdaniel

(497 posts)
33. As attractive as it is to attack Mika and France for her BIG CHANGE, I am reminded
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:12 AM
Oct 2016

Of the recent "secret meeting" with tRUMP about two weeks ago...plus some "chats" with some brass at MSN,,,Y'know, keep the horse race going...even if you have to help the "bad" horse...revoltiing, no?

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
34. All part of the same pattern
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:14 AM
Oct 2016

The media has been building the horse race for over a year, now. They've been building this since before Trump and Clinton were the nominees, and people have been calling it. A close race is good for the ratings, so they're going to do everything they possibly can to make sure that the race is as close as it can be. If there are 10 polls that show Clinton ahead, they're going to talk about #11 that shows them neck and neck.

The media doesn't really care about the outcome. It has no moral stance against Trump so long as he brings in the advertising dollars that the 24/7 coverage of a close race will bring. If Clinton pulls waaaaay into the lead, people will tune out because that's boring.

Even during the Democratic primary, when Bernie kept saying he was going to take it all the way to the convention. I thought it was the best thing he could do for the party, because as long as there was a fight, the media would be covering it, and as soon as Clinton was locked in as the candidate, the Democrats would be boring. Boring means no eyeballs, so they'd go right back to covering Trumps outrageous-thing-of-the-hour.

While individuals in the media may be having (very strong) pangs of regret at the monster they've helped build in Trump, the media companies are unapologetic, amoral, and completely profit driven, even if that profit is at the expense of Democracy itself.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
38. +1
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:25 AM
Oct 2016

Media corporations have a legal mandate to generate profits for shareholders, not to provide an important service to the people and democracy.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
40. Capitalist ideology is pure theology, with no logical or moral underpinnings, whatsoever.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:38 AM
Oct 2016

Middle school physical science lessons reveal it as nonsense.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
37. Ohio
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:20 AM
Oct 2016

There are several reasons why Ohio could swing away from the drumph.

Many many dem voters do not take part in polls. There was a thread about that and the results were very interesting. Perosnally I never take part when they call.

So are the polls inaccurate enough?

If anything that fact combined with the Dem ground game may lead to a surprising result.

Then there is the mastermind tweeter. Expect more garbage from the small handed, small minded bigot.

He cannot perform in a debate.

Watch his seething facial contortions as he tries to avoid blurting out some ridiculous crap. SNL will have a field day.





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