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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:18 PM

I think Kaine just won the debate

With the Russian discussion. Shaky start but sealed the deal.

Oh lord and now for foundation talk surely Kaine can stop this nonsense with the corrupt Trump foundation.

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Reply I think Kaine just won the debate (Original post)
ALBliberal Oct 2016 OP
Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #1
OhZone Oct 2016 #2
RBInMaine Oct 2016 #3
MoonRiver Oct 2016 #5
upaloopa Oct 2016 #4
procon Oct 2016 #6
ALBliberal Oct 2016 #7
Name removed Oct 2016 #8
JCMach1 Oct 2016 #9
ALBliberal Oct 2016 #10
radius777 Oct 2016 #11
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #12
BlueInPhilly Oct 2016 #13
KewlKat Oct 2016 #15
ALBliberal Oct 2016 #19
uponit7771 Oct 2016 #18
uponit7771 Oct 2016 #14
ALBliberal Oct 2016 #16
regnaD kciN Oct 2016 #26
wisteria Oct 2016 #17
calimary Oct 2016 #20
hay rick Oct 2016 #21
elmac Oct 2016 #22
Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #23
ALBliberal Oct 2016 #24
Gothmog Oct 2016 #25
C Moon Oct 2016 #27
ffr Oct 2016 #28

Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:19 PM

1. Yup

That was huge.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:20 PM

2. I agree! nt

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:22 PM

3. He just did great taking down the CORRUPT Trump foundation.

 

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:24 PM

5. And then Pense lied his ass off about how much money Clinton Foundation donates to charity.

Hope Kaine can respond to that later.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:22 PM

4. Pence is using the right wing scandal talking points.

Sounds like desperation.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:24 PM

6. He's definitely settled down and doing much better now.

He's scoring consecutive points and keeping Pence off balance.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:25 PM

7. I like the church and state stance

Kaine makes.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:25 PM

9. He just nailed the religion question...

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:31 PM

10. Kaine should bring up the horrible

Abortion laws pence has championed in Indiana like requiring ultrasounds for women seeking abortion.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:32 PM

11. Kaine rocked him, I don't agree the start was shaky, thought it was strong

considering the first question was bait/trap - he didnt' fall for it, gave his opening statement, really strong argument for Hillary as public servant and Con as selfish.

Kaine clearly is appealing the the Constitution and fundamental American values of civil rights, women's rights, religous freedom, separation of church and state.

Pence's final answers on abortion - sounds way too fundie/xtian nut.

Kaine rocked it on Roe v Wade, quoting the bible 'from the fullness of heart the mouth speaks'

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:40 PM

12. Kaine didn't have to beat Pence; just tRump. Pence couldn't defend tRump. . . . nt

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:41 PM

13. Not according to Chris Matthews

Bastard!

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Response to BlueInPhilly (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:41 PM

15. yuge bastard............tweety that is

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Response to KewlKat (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:44 PM

19. Ya Matthews jumped to that

Conclusion too quick he will backpedal I think

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Response to BlueInPhilly (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:44 PM

18. +1, Matthews think Pence can run with tRump wrapped around his neck !!!

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:41 PM

14. +1, that's what I thought to

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:44 PM

16. Carville has an honest take

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Response to ALBliberal (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:31 PM

26. What did he say?

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:44 PM

17. I though Cain did just fine.

 

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:00 PM

20. I think the reviews will be kinder to Pence because he didn't do a Trump.

He really couldn't help but succeed to some extent because Trump left things at the very bottom of the Marianas Trench. And it was a glaring contrast. Pence was clearly more adult and much less of a hyperactive adult-sized five-year-old. So how could he not earn higher marks. Maybe relievedly higher marks - along the lines of "well, at least BOTH of 'em aren't nutbags!" or - "well him I suppose I could live with because he isn't flat-out insulting people..." He'll get points for more or less adult behavior.

Eugene Robinson pointed out, though that Pence interrupted as much as Kaine did, but Kaine started it. They're talking about the the repeated denial of clearly and provably true facts and quotes. I'm really glad to see this! Steve Schmidt points out that the true accurate quotes and actual facts will be played back to disprove Pence's

Lawrence O'Donnell, too: "Mike Pence denied Trump saying something we have videotape of him saying."

Mike Murphy the GOP strategist said something I agree with: Mike Pence wasn't making a case for Donald Trump, he was making a case for himself, four years from now. He also said the big loser tonight is Ted Cruz, because Mike Pence just stepped in his way.



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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:03 PM

21. Watched it on CNN with my wife.

Immediately afterwards the talking heads all called it for Pence and then CNN went to the focus group. The focus group clearly called it for Kaine. Then the commentator jumped in and said that was probably because the debate was in Virginia and a lot of the people on their panel had previously voted for Kaine. CNN is an embarrassing fraud.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:07 PM

22. the canned corporate networks

 

are salivating over Pences presidential performance, sickening.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:11 PM

23. Tweety thinks Pence won....

 

But then, he was all upset that Trump didn't talk about JOBS because he thinks Trump is one of those "Job Creator" deities.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:17 PM

24. Pence's strong words on Russia and

Putin rang hollow. But.... So many voters are just tuning in. The takeaway could be that the Republican ticket is strong against Russia. Up is down....

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:23 PM

25. Kaine forced Pence to throw trump under the bus

Pence is running for 2020 and did not defend trump at all. That will hurt this election

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:34 PM

27. Didn't think of that. You're correct, I think.

In the next few days, this debate will be forgotten, and we'll all be focused on the real issue: getting Trump and the GOP outta there!

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Wed Oct 5, 2016, 01:12 AM

28. Kaine was masterclass!!! Donald's personal Mt. Rushmore!



He was the aggressor, putting Pence on the defensive all evening.

How many times did Pence have to fall back on some rehearsed line and stare around the room with that goofy face of his?

Kaine just blew his doors off.

Pence rehearsed lines served red meat to his base, but nowhere did his message appeal to the center or the left. He was off topic over and over, having to be reminded to answer the question.

HRC-Kaine are 2 - 0.



See 41:55s

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