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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 06:15 PM Oct 2016

Donald Trump Is Setting a Time Bomb

His calls for racial voter intimidation on Election Day could explode in all our faces.

By Jamelle Bouie

Donald Trump spins so many tales—and goes after so many different groups and individuals—that it’s sometimes easy to miss his most invidious rhetoric. For months, the Republican presidential nominee has undermined confidence in our electoral system, warning his supporters that this election will be “rigged” and stolen through “voter fraud.”

Trump first told his supporters of this conspiracy theory at an Ohio rally in August and followed up the claim in an interview with Sean Hannity: “I’m telling you, Nov. 8, we’d better be careful because that election is going to be rigged. And I hope the Republicans are watching closely, or it’s going to be taken away from us.” This was in line with comments from his surrogates, like longtime adviser Roger Stone, who told Breitbart that Trump would begin to talk “constantly” about voter fraud. “He needs to say for example, today would be a perfect example: ‘I am leading in Florida. The polls all show it. If I lose Florida, we will know that there’s voter fraud.’ ” Stone continued: “‘If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government.’” The implication is clear: If Trump loses, he should foment this “civil disobedience.” And he should start preparing his supporters for it now. He seems to be doing just that.

“The only way we can lose, in my opinion … is if cheating goes on,” said Trump during another August rally in Pennsylvania. In Wilmington, North Carolina—where more than a century earlier, white terrorists toppled a black-led city government in a violent insurrection—Trump warned his supporters that without strict voter identification laws, people would be “voting 15 times for Hillary.”

These are rhetorical time bombs, statements that cast doubt on our democracy, planted with growing frequency as Trump tries to rationalize the fact that he’s losing. There’s a chance this is harmless, that Trump will resign himself to defeat if he loses to Hillary Clinton and bring his supporters with him—during the first presidential debate moderator Lester Holt asked him whether he would “accept the outcome [of the election] as the will of the voters,” and he said unequivocally “the answer is that if she wins I will absolutely support her.” But that was before he lashed out against the media for his poor performance, before the polls began to tilt back in Clinton’s favor. Now that he’s behind, Trump has returned to questioning the legitimacy of the election. More critically, the idea that he would respect the results of the election, full stop, ignores the hatred that’s come to characterize Trump’s campaign, the violence he’s condoned against protesters and other vocal opponents, the virulent prejudice he’s brought to mainstream politics, and the apocalypticism of his message, where he stands as the final hope for an embattled minority of resentful whites. These rhetorical time bombs, in other words, could be the catalyst for actual intimidation and violence, before and after Election Day. And if that violence and intimidation strikes, it will be against the chief targets of Trump’s campaign: people of color.

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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/10/donald_trump_is_setting_a_time_bomb_for_racial_violence_on_election_day.html

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Donald Trump Is Setting a Time Bomb (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2016 OP
Most of his followers are punks. Blustering fools. Dregs of the Tea Party. JoePhilly Oct 2016 #1
Nothing more than terrorism. TexasTowelie Oct 2016 #2
I believe Trump is setting up the election as he has, in order to challenge it in the SCourt. misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #3
I hope it does not fall on the Speaker to make the choice. Another thought was he Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #7
He would be the god of the right wing. misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #8
Wouldn't this only work Mme. Defarge Oct 2016 #10
It would have to be tied... Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #12
God willing Mme. Defarge Oct 2016 #13
Panicky nonsense alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #4
He has the Dixiecrat, alt-right and Republicans who dont care who they vote Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #5
Trump: Somebody set up us the bomb. longship Oct 2016 #6
How are you gentlemen? n/t Still In Wisconsin Oct 2016 #9
Clasic memes... tonedevil Oct 2016 #11

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
1. Most of his followers are punks. Blustering fools. Dregs of the Tea Party.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 06:20 PM
Oct 2016

I bet many of them won't even have the STAMINA to vote, let alone have the energy to go and try to intimidate people in ethnic neighborhoods.

TexasTowelie

(112,314 posts)
2. Nothing more than terrorism.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 06:24 PM
Oct 2016

It doesn't matter if you have the means to create trouble, stirring fear like these people have done is terrorism.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
3. I believe Trump is setting up the election as he has, in order to challenge it in the SCourt.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 06:37 PM
Oct 2016

Since there is no Scalia to hedge their bets, and the SC still without a replacement Judge..Repubs will then use this fact to send the final vote of choosing our 2016 President to the Speaker of the House. Trump's buddy, Paul Ryan.
I believe this is the scenario we will face and THIS is why Speaker Paul Ryan has been so silent on calling out Trump for all his insanity.

This scenario is straight out ofthe Right Wing playbook and not for a single minute do I believe that Trump & his international criminal mob will simply accept the outcome of Nov 8th when it is called in Hillary's favor.

This entire Trump candidacy & 2016 campaign has been a massive manipulation that was orchestrated well before 2015. They knew Hillary would run & they knew the only way to beat her would be through the very channels we have been witness to. Media, Gowdy, Russia etc.

The Vast Right Wing is stronger than ever in this election.

My bet is on them using the path to Speaker Ryan to put Trump in the White House.
If there's a Constitutional loophole allowing such a path, be sure they have already thought it out.

I do worry how far they will take their need to "win".

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. I hope it does not fall on the Speaker to make the choice. Another thought was he
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 06:48 PM
Oct 2016

Would stay and hope to be elected, get elected, resign and then brag he alone chose the president.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
8. He would be the god of the right wing.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 07:04 PM
Oct 2016

I hope they are stopped before it ever gets to that point. But then, we are talking about the most corrupt & sinister group our country has faced in a long time.

This would be a KKKoch & KKKarl Rove dream.

Wounded Bear

(58,676 posts)
12. It would have to be tied...
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 08:31 PM
Oct 2016

Highly unlikely, even in a close year. 2016 is starting to look like an epic beatdown. I hope.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. He has the Dixiecrat, alt-right and Republicans who dont care who they vote
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 06:44 PM
Oct 2016

For as long as it has a R behind the name. Trump used to be a Democrat and if he happened to be the DNC nominee this would be a year where I would not vote for the nominee. He is the RNC clown, they made him and now they need to take ownership.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. Trump: Somebody set up us the bomb.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 06:47 PM
Oct 2016

Democrats: All your base are belong to us.
You have no chance to survive make your time.

Trump: Take off every ZIG


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