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riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:21 PM Nov 2012

It's over: Murphy actually gained 274 votes, West 34

from Twitter:

They said after all info was uploaded that Murphy was the winner with the new tapes after everything was all uploaded. I am listening live with Gary. They will be posting this information soon for the public. West only gained 34 and Murphy gained 274
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It's over: Murphy actually gained 274 votes, West 34 (Original Post) riverwalker Nov 2012 OP
Great news! Jennicut Nov 2012 #1
+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #37
Unfortunately, I doubt we will have heard the last of this asshole. calimary Nov 2012 #55
West don't let the door hit you in the ass! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #2
Don't Let the Doorknob Hit Ya' Where the Dog Should Have Bit Ya' mckara Nov 2012 #8
Naah, fine with me if it hits him. What matters is he's out. JHB Nov 2012 #50
Fine with me too! progressoid Nov 2012 #76
Expect West to move to another district and make another run in '14. He loves SDjack Nov 2012 #3
More importantly, Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #53
Putting school teachers and members of the military in the same group with welfare recipients? merrily Nov 2012 #77
No, he's putting them in the same group as FlaGranny Nov 2012 #81
He was my representative Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #86
That is just about what I said the poster was doing; and I already expressed my thoughts merrily Nov 2012 #89
No, no, no. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #87
I realize what West is, including his hypocrisy. I also realize the nature of government money (our merrily Nov 2012 #90
Do you really want to say Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #91
Don't answer until you've seen Frontenac, Allen. Don C. Nuttin Nov 2012 #56
He was personally invited by the Georgia Rep party chair to SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #71
Hope this dumbass tries to run in John Lewis's district. klook Nov 2012 #83
Just Hope.... PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #85
Thanks, please update with West's concession speech! LOL! freshwest Nov 2012 #4
PLEASE let there be tears, I love it when the crazies cry Heather MC Nov 2012 #6
Maybe DUers could chip in and send him a coupon for a 'Tombstone' pizza! freshwest Nov 2012 #17
hope it's confirmed soon riverwalker Nov 2012 #5
I Suspected West Would End Up Losing by Wider Margin - Good Result Indykatie Nov 2012 #7
Great! William769 Nov 2012 #9
That's what I call good news. Now I want to listen to his concession speech. Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #10
Don't bet the rent peace frog Nov 2012 #14
I'm glad to see West go BUT Stevepol Nov 2012 #11
Not to mention that when they recount them they get more votes? zeemike Nov 2012 #18
They found some 300 ballots they haven't counted the first time. LisaL Nov 2012 #20
Totally agree with you both.... deurbano Nov 2012 #57
And welcome to DU. zeemike Nov 2012 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author kdmorris Nov 2012 #62
I'm in ca.- ruffburr Nov 2012 #12
maybe these were the uncounted ballots they found riverwalker Nov 2012 #13
It's not over til the madman sings Doctor_J Nov 2012 #15
His singing is not required. DavidDvorkin Nov 2012 #21
One John2 Nov 2012 #16
I read that the judge mentioned to the candidates AnnieK401 Nov 2012 #19
Unfortunately- No Vested Interest Nov 2012 #22
Why not recount a couple more times? Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #23
K&R. Glad to hear it. Overseas Nov 2012 #24
Eat it Fox News. Chipper Chat Nov 2012 #25
They didn't want West The Wizard Nov 2012 #28
Go (Home) West!!! FreeBC Nov 2012 #26
Excellent News larocks4552s Nov 2012 #27
Right, and 'Florida's West to Fight Defeat in House Race.' elleng Nov 2012 #29
Thanks for the link... sheshe2 Nov 2012 #64
West will never concede. He is dangerous. Faygo Kid Nov 2012 #30
Geese, and I guarantee you that he has guns. Maybe even military grade weapons. AnnieK401 Nov 2012 #48
West defeated FrankM64 Nov 2012 #31
Yes indeed my friend. Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #32
He was a drag on that! Cha Nov 2012 #33
St. Lucie recount results shows Murphy picked up votes on West riverwalker Nov 2012 #34
Do the HONORABLE thing HockeyMom Nov 2012 #35
Whew! hay rick Nov 2012 #36
What West Needs To Do Now identify Nov 2012 #38
Not enough visuals there.. jonthebru Nov 2012 #44
yep,great heaven05 Nov 2012 #88
Most of the youtubes I've seen today eyewall Nov 2012 #39
What's interesting about those pop ups is... reACTIONary Nov 2012 #65
I thought there was something fishy. eyewall Nov 2012 #67
Yea!!! jonthebru Nov 2012 #40
it would be nice to get rid of that crazy man for good lunatica Nov 2012 #41
Is this now fair and accurate? JoeDuck Nov 2012 #42
Welcome to DU, JoeDuck! calimary Nov 2012 #58
Maybe he was arrogant enough for Tea Party Thinkingabout Nov 2012 #43
k&r butterfly77 Nov 2012 #45
I don't think West has conceded yet TroyD Nov 2012 #46
Not sure exactly what his options are AnnieK401 Nov 2012 #47
I don't know about Florida election law davidpdx Nov 2012 #61
GOOD! Plucketeer Nov 2012 #49
Hey, West! MrMickeysMom Nov 2012 #51
HA! ha! Up2Late Nov 2012 #52
I see West is still advertising on DU, take his money. Thinkingabout Nov 2012 #54
A bit teary MissNostalgia Nov 2012 #59
Excellent news. crim son Nov 2012 #60
West, don't let the door hit you in the A$$ on the way out. sarcasmo Nov 2012 #63
And West is contesting in court RomneyLies Nov 2012 #66
Any Bets? Heathen57 Nov 2012 #69
It's not all ego. It's about the votes coming up. The GOP will try to reduce Democratic voters in freshwest Nov 2012 #72
Yaaaay!!! The beginning of finally fixing Florida!! SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #70
Good riddance, you obnoxious jackass!! BlueDemKev Nov 2012 #73
K & R! Change has come Nov 2012 #74
Wooooooooooot!! Hulk Nov 2012 #75
Only the certifiable and/or the brainwashed would grieve West's defeat. merrily Nov 2012 #78
All West has left now.. defacto7 Nov 2012 #79
A few tweets from LOLGOP: onestepforward Nov 2012 #80
Whoot! Whoot! Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #82
they thought they got rid of enough ballots willhe Nov 2012 #84
He still refuses to concede budkin Nov 2012 #92
Hey Allen, you would have won if you were white! LiberalLovinLug Nov 2012 #93

calimary

(82,468 posts)
55. Unfortunately, I doubt we will have heard the last of this asshole.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:07 PM
Nov 2012

I still wanna hear about his security clearance that was SO much bigger than President Obama's.

Good riddance to bad rubbish in the meantime, though! Have they counted this in the overall House numbers? Anybody know if this makes the GOP totals drop by another one? I'd heard that the Democratic House seat gains had gone from eight seats to ten. Wondering if this was among those already counted, since he did show up at the freshman sessions.

JHB

(37,188 posts)
50. Naah, fine with me if it hits him. What matters is he's out.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:54 PM
Nov 2012

Of course, if it leaves a mark...

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
3. Expect West to move to another district and make another run in '14. He loves
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:27 PM
Nov 2012

power too much to give up being in the House.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
53. More importantly,
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:02 PM
Nov 2012

this asshole has always been a government dependent. His father was career military and his only job after the military was as a high school teacher and a consultant to a defense contractor.

Georgia, his birth state, has already asked him to run in one of their districts in 2014.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
77. Putting school teachers and members of the military in the same group with welfare recipients?
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:56 AM
Nov 2012

If teachers and members of the military do their respective jobs, I would say government is dependent on them, not vice versa.

FlaGranny

(8,361 posts)
81. No, he's putting them in the same group as
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:46 AM
Nov 2012

government employees, i.e., people who earn their living by working for the so-called "useless" government. In other words they are all dependent on the government just as much as welfare recipients.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
86. He was my representative
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:06 PM
Nov 2012

until I moved. His constant rants about 'government' dependency drove me wild....

merrily

(45,251 posts)
89. That is just about what I said the poster was doing; and I already expressed my thoughts
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:03 PM
Nov 2012

on equating people in the military and teachers with welfare recipients.

There is no comparison.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
87. No, no, no.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:12 PM
Nov 2012

West was my representative until I moved 11 months ago. He is a big "small government, private sector" proponent. It drove me wild
as everything he has emanated from the government.

Government money is government money, regardless of who receives it, btw. Welfare stimulates the economy even in good economic times.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
90. I realize what West is, including his hypocrisy. I also realize the nature of government money (our
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:09 PM
Nov 2012

money) does not change. However, I think lumping the military and teachers in with welfare recipients is wrong.

I am not condemning welfare recipients. People in need should get welfare., However, welfare recipients are different from people who work.

Welfare stimulates the economy even in good economic times.


Yes, but the discussion was not about stimulating the economy?

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
91. Do you really want to say
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:19 PM
Nov 2012

that people who receive welfare are somehow of less value than those who teach school or serve in the military?

Don C. Nuttin

(84 posts)
56. Don't answer until you've seen Frontenac, Allen.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:07 PM
Nov 2012

I believe he could take out Lynn Jenkins in a Republican primary in the Kansas 2nd.

klook

(12,294 posts)
83. Hope this dumbass tries to run in John Lewis's district.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:21 AM
Nov 2012

We could use some more entertainment around here.

Unfortunately, there are some Ga. districts where this idiot could find enough kindred spirits to win.

William769

(55,582 posts)
9. Great!
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:53 PM
Nov 2012

I can't wait to see what kind of concession speech this asshole gives. That is if he gives one at all.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
10. That's what I call good news. Now I want to listen to his concession speech.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:54 PM
Nov 2012

He sure better give one and not just slink off into the shadows. I'm waiting............

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
14. Don't bet the rent
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:59 PM
Nov 2012

West is just the sort of monumentally sore loser to not only refuse to concede, but will choke before he calls to congratulate his winning opponent. He won't slink off into the shadows, but will eventally be cast into media darkness at long last. Not soon enough, of course.

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
11. I'm glad to see West go BUT
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:55 PM
Nov 2012

there's no way to know that either candidate won when the vote is counted in secret without a hand-counted audit to verify the result.

In FL it is ILLEGAL to count votes by hand if they have already been counted by an electronic voting machine for God's sake.

I agree with BradBlog. There shd have been a HAND COUNT of ALL the ballots. I feel pretty sure that it would have confirmed the result. I suspect that Murphy would have won be an even larger margin than he did with the purely machine count that is all that is allowed in FL. If West had won, more power to him. He would have been the one chosen by real people in an honest election.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
18. Not to mention that when they recount them they get more votes?
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:17 PM
Nov 2012

Does that not suggest that something is wrong?...if things were working right there should be no difference at all in the count.

I guess when people get tired of having elections stolen they will demand a fraud proof election conducted by real people.
And don't let anyone tell you that is not possible.

deurbano

(2,904 posts)
57. Totally agree with you both....
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:07 PM
Nov 2012

I want that McCarthy-ite, war criminal GONE... but the way we run elections in this country is also a crime. Virtually EVERY adult citizen should be eligible and registered to vote... and EVERY vote should be counted. (In a way that produces a paper trail... and is replicable!)

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
68. And welcome to DU.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:22 PM
Nov 2012

And it is not rocket science to do it either....and is cheaper than computers....
Paper ballots filled out and dropped down a slot that went to a table in the next room with a couple retired seniors sitting at who were hired to then count and tabulate the vote.....when the last vote is cast in that precinct the totals are checked and when confirmed posted publicly....ballots sealed up and voting is finished...all for far less than we spend now.
But that system is hard to game...you would have to bribe too many old people to have any effect...

Response to Stevepol (Reply #11)

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
13. maybe these were the uncounted ballots they found
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:58 PM
Nov 2012

which means the rest of the count is unchanged and was accurate.



http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_st_lucie_county/fort_pierce/judge-refuses-to-halt-early-vote-recount-in-st-lucie-county

Mowery confirmed that 306 uncounted ballots had been "noted" by state Division of Elections.

He later explained the 306 ballots that had not yet been counted were ballots that contained one or more write-in choices. All these ballots were cast on Nov. 1-3, the days which had been recounted last Sunday.

A write-in vote in any race caused the vote tabulating machines to reject the ballots, he said.
..The decision to recount the ballots came after a state elections auditor on Friday found the box of 306 early ballots that never were counted.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
16. One
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:00 PM
Nov 2012

fruitcake gone, more to go in the GOP Congress. Especially the Fruit cakes showing up on these Sunday Shows.

AnnieK401

(541 posts)
19. I read that the judge mentioned to the candidates
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:34 PM
Nov 2012

that after the election was certified that one of them could contest the results in court. Maybe that means this won't happen in this case.

No Vested Interest

(5,178 posts)
22. Unfortunately-
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:41 PM
Nov 2012

this type never really goes away.
He'll likely write a book and go on the lecture circuit, and be a frequent guest on Fox News.

The Wizard

(12,650 posts)
28. They didn't want West
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:55 PM
Nov 2012

on their payroll. Methinks Palin is costing them plenty in terms of bang for the buck. Did I say bang for the buck in the same sentence with Palin?

Faygo Kid

(21,482 posts)
30. West will never concede. He is dangerous.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:55 PM
Nov 2012

Well, maybe he will, but there's no doubt that he could go nuts about this, violently.

AnnieK401

(541 posts)
48. Geese, and I guarantee you that he has guns. Maybe even military grade weapons.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:46 PM
Nov 2012

I'm sure plenty of his supporters do also.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
34. St. Lucie recount results shows Murphy picked up votes on West
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:05 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/nov/18/we-still-dont-know/

St. Lucie recount results shows Murphy picked up votes on West

St. Lucie election official said state-mandated noon deadline met

As far as we're concerned, this puts an end to it," Johnson said. "The West people demanded a recount. They got that retabulation and Patrick Murphy gained a margin of 242 votes.

""This election is over," Johnson added.

Mowery said the final count was 65,841 votes for Murphy and 52,704 for West. The results still are unofficial.

identify

(71 posts)
38. What West Needs To Do Now
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:15 PM
Nov 2012

He needs to say a prayer on top of XMEN comic #1. Then he needs to run out into the wilderness on a cold winter's night, naked.

When he runs until he can't run anymore, he needs to fall to his knees, look up at the sky, then let out his most primal roar of muthafuckin' RAGE, maybe cut his chest with a broken bottle, then go fetal and cry.

eyewall

(674 posts)
39. Most of the youtubes I've seen today
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:16 PM
Nov 2012

all of which originated as links from DU, have a popup ad which states "Liberals are trying to steal Allen West's victory!".

jeesh

He's not going away on his own. West will need to be put in a straightjacket at some point.

reACTIONary

(5,848 posts)
65. What's interesting about those pop ups is...
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 08:52 PM
Nov 2012

...they are probably from one of the fake "West Super PACs" that have NO connection with him, use his name strictly for raising cash, and do god-knows-what with the money. West never sees a dime. And its not clear the money goes to any political cause at all.

eyewall

(674 posts)
67. I thought there was something fishy.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:16 PM
Nov 2012

I wasn't sure I was remembering it right so I didn't mention it but I'm sure the spelling was "liburls", like freepers spell it. How appropriate that West would attract con men to his coattails.

JoeDuck

(79 posts)
42. Is this now fair and accurate?
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:24 PM
Nov 2012

When demanding a recount, West and his folks insisted they wanted to ensure a fair and accurate count. I took that to mean a count by which West would win. I wonder now if they accept this as fair and accurate.

calimary

(82,468 posts)
58. Welcome to DU, JoeDuck!
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:10 PM
Nov 2012

Ordinarily I'd hope that west would do the gracious thing and concede and move on with his life. But I know better. Seriously doubt he'll go away quietly, or even go away noisily - just so he GOES AWAY!!! But I bet we won't have heard the last of him. My husband mentioned something about whether he'd be a graceful loser, but then we realized - hell, the TOP of the ticket hasn't been a good sport about it, so why should the pawns on his chessboard behave any differently?

Glad you're here! Let's do EVERYTHING we can to keep assholes like this guy OUT of public office! In perpetuity!!!!

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
46. I don't think West has conceded yet
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:34 PM
Nov 2012

So can he still challenge the results even though Murphy has been officially re-certified?

AnnieK401

(541 posts)
47. Not sure exactly what his options are
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:40 PM
Nov 2012

but I know his attorneys are weighing them. The crazy man will try anything he can.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
54. I see West is still advertising on DU, take his money.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:04 PM
Nov 2012

MSM doesnot vote, you lost, the lawyers needs your money, give it all to them. Throw a tantrum, wish Santa will give you the election. After you realize you lost, resolve your issues in life, get some help with your mean mouth, you are going to be on angry old man if you don't get help.

Heathen57

(573 posts)
69. Any Bets?
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:51 PM
Nov 2012

He will never concede, and he will continue to fight the results until the courts and the media finally drop his teabagging ass.

He must be one of those people who enjoys being humiliated in public. He did it to himself all during his short 'reign', and now is allowing others to humiliate him.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
72. It's not all ego. It's about the votes coming up. The GOP will try to reduce Democratic voters in
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:01 PM
Nov 2012

January and will drag out any contest they can to maintain their hold. They did it with Coleman and Franken for almost 6 months.

That was to continue the Koch agenda and this is the same, as long as they have a foot in the door.

The problem is not stupidity. We enjoy sayng that, but they would only be stupid if doing a job for the public.

They don't work for the public. This is a thing Democrats have a blind spot on.

What he is actually, is a bought and paid for toady. He will work for his real masters, not people that he claims to represent in FL.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
79. All West has left now..
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:30 AM
Nov 2012

is to get a gun! and shoot his way into office.

I'm not sure he wouldn't do it.

onestepforward

(3,691 posts)
80. A few tweets from LOLGOP:
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:53 AM
Nov 2012

LOLGOP ?@LOLGOP
One more recount and we'll find out that Allen West lost in 2010, too.

LOLGOP ?@LOLGOP
How many recounts does Allen West need to qualify for his AM radio show?

willhe

(97 posts)
84. they thought they got rid of enough ballots
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:39 AM
Nov 2012

that boxhead kook shouldve never been in office to begin with. too bad nutjob michelle district is gerrymandered to hell

LiberalLovinLug

(14,237 posts)
93. Hey Allen, you would have won if you were white!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:34 PM
Nov 2012

How does that make you feel? Not enough whitebread racist Republicans had the energy to get up and vote for you. If you were a little paler and said the same assholic things I'm sure you'd have won.

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