2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAfter Democrats Gain Across the Country, Conservative Voters Wonder Where They Fit
CHEYENNE, Wyo. By now, voters here are over the initial shock. The ranchers, businessmen and farmers across this deep-red state who knew, just knew that Americans would never re-elect a liberal tax-and-spender president have grudgingly accepted the reality that voters did just that.
But in the days since the election, a blanket of baffled worry has descended on conservatives here like early snow across the plains, deepening a sense that traditional, rural and overwhelmingly white states in the center of the country are losing touch with an increasingly diverse and urban American electorate.
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One of the states newest elected officials is M. Lee Hasenauer, who runs a tree trimming service and just won a two-year seat as a Laramie County commissioner. His views described as pretty out there by fellow conservatives in the state are that Mr. Obama won through voter fraud, that the county is veering leftward toward fiscal ruin and that something fundamental is now different about American politics.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/19/us/politics/after-democrats-gain-across-the-country-conservative-voters-wonder-where-they-fit.html?_r=0
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)with everyone rather than against everyone, especially on social values. People are fed up with the NO and HATEFUL crowd.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)I suggest dropping right wing media as a first step back to normalcy.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)He was bewildered by the results on election night.
I thought Romney was a shoe-in, he said. Something is way wrong. It may take a revolution to straighten out our government.
His friend Bradley Harrington, who publishes a year-old conservative newspaper called Libertys Torch and hosts an AM radio talk show, said the election vindicated conservative politicians and commentators who talked about the 47 percent of Americans who pay no income tax, of makers and takers.
The parasites now outnumber the producers, Mr. Harrington said. Thats why Romney lost, and I think its going to get worse.
They hate what America actually is.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)for their loss. It was Mitt, or the software, or "lazy minorities" who wanted "free stuff". They still don't get it. This election was an across the board rejection of their "values".
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)That's their motto. Not for once, would they even consider, how wrong they are for this country. Hopefully this will be it for them.
elleng
(131,196 posts)this bunch is all the terms we've used for the past few years, and 'conservative' is not among them.
Conservative is: Holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in politics or religion
CurtEastPoint
(18,668 posts)five children - all Republicans!
Dubster
(427 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)them into hateful repulsive beings. The new so called conservatives are full of nothing but hatred. The old time GOP one could work with and team for solutions. The new GOP is full of nothing but hatred. And frankly, hatred for what America stands for. The new GOP is IMO a bunch of terrorists against most Americans.
actually resent some 27 year old white guy telling me I'm not American. Just who does he think he is. He has been living in Wyoming too long and the United States actually let you live on that land when they pushed the Indians off. The U.S. Government is why you live there and with the help of the U.S. calvary. And some of them were Black soldiers. So who the hell are they to say who is an American? He needs to go back and find out how America evolved into the country it is.
I'm going to bring up Romney also. It was the U.S. government that helped Romney's family, when they had hard times. Just how does he think his father was able to put him through school? His mother said it best about the U.S. social services during the Great Depression. They got assistance because they lost everything in Mexico. These people are so self centered.
NYC Liberal
(20,137 posts)things like marriage equality and marijuana legalization. They can support them with a conservative frame -- ie, make it about smaller government (government shouldn't be telling you who you can marry or what plants to grow).
From what we've seen over the past few weeks though, I suspect they still don't get it.