Why in the hell wasn't Huma Abedin's laptop looked at sooner?

[UMTerp01]

Sorry but this was sloppy as hell. Alan Dershowitz pointed this out last night that her lawyers should have been the ones to say here's her laptop. If the investigation is about Weiner then look at his emails. I thought they already went through Huma's emails, and if this was some sort of extra device that was left out then why in the hell didn't she turn it over prior to this? Am I saying this correctly? Please correct me if I'm not but thats what I'm getting from what I'm hearing so far. So at the very least this is sloppy as hell. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. There is no way that emails from Clinton to Huma should have been sent to a laptop "shared" by Huma and her husband. This should've been done on a device that was hers and hers alone. Am I wrong in that sentiment? I don't think I am. Its ridiculous that this comes out now given that they all know she is Hillary's close personal aide so why the hell are they just getting their information now? Why wasn't it turned over before or why didn't the FBI look at it before?

Please let me know if I have my information correct. Am I misreporting something? I'm just sitting here thinking about everything I've heard and just seems like it could've been completely avoided and was at most sloppy but left the door open for this bullshit.

[PoliticAverse]

1. Dershowitz thinks someone under investigation should turn over as much evidence as possible?

Voluntarily?

Really?

[Cakes488]

3. No they should of filed a motion to protect her content on that computer.......

[UMTerp01]

4. What he said is that her lawyers should've have said take it but for Weiner's emails only

I mean this seems to be about the Weiner investigation into his literal weiner and these inappropriate texts to an underage girl across state lines; a very serious crime. Dershowitz said that that her lawyers should've said here take his emails but you do not have any reason to see Huma's emails.

[LisaL]

11. How would she have known about Weiner's emails back then?

I don't understand this.

[karynnj]

38. I assume that they had separate email accounts

So, as was said in the OP -- her email accounts should have been off limits. This would also explain why - even sharing a laptop, she would not have seen any tweets or emails he sent.

Given what they are looking for, I doubt that he would have mistakenly used her email account to make they predatory contacts. It might be that because they were on a laptop he had access to, the request was for all communications from any device he had access to. (That might explain the language that HER lawyers should have demanded that HER emails (that presumably he had access to be withheld.)

[LisaL]

5. Yea, I would say a strange statement from a lawyer.

[Cakes488]

2. I do agree this should of been avoided another shot in foot and I saw Dershowitz last night too.

But to get around this I'm thinking that Huma knows that these are all duplicates so what's the point of handing over the laptop if they were all just forwarded anyway? They are all just copies.

[RBInMaine]

10. STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM! Dershowitz is a REPUBLICAN! If the FBI had ASKED for that device, they

could have gotten it voluntarily or with a warrant. It is up to THEM to conduct the investigation and ask for whatever devices they want to examine. I'm sure Abedin fully complied with everything they REQUESTED and probably just didn't think about this device since she thought anything pertinent would be on the server. STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM!

[Cakes488]

12. I'm blaming HER LAWYERS. Dershowitz was making points on behalf Clinton..did you even see

the interview? And if read what I wrote I SAID HUMA didn't think to turn this over BECAUSE THESE EMAILS ARE ALL DUPLICATES ANYWAY. But her law team should of protected her from this PERIOD.

[Demsrule86]

23. Yawn...have your fun while you can...

[Avalux]

6. It wasn't a work-issued laptop - NONE of the emails were to or from Hillary or from her server.

There would have been no reason for Abedin to turn it over in the context of the original email probe.

I think they were unclassified work-related emails Abedin forwarded to her private email so she could print them at home. Essentially duplicates of what the FBI has already seen.

[RBInMaine]

7. Oh goody goody. Blame the VICTIM. Are you working for Trump, Republicans, and right wing media?

Look, the FBI did an investigation. They examined the emails that were on the Clinton server. They examined Abedin's emails. Abedin had multiple accounts. You will find that many, most, or all of the emails they are now investigating have already been seen. I'm sure Abedin turned over other devices and/or was under the impression that anything they were investigating of importance would have been on the Clinton server and didn't think she needed to turn over her home computer. If the FBI didn't ask for it, then THEY should have and they could have gotten it voluntarily or with a warrant. They investigated this for a whole year and they're the pros. So what you are arguing is totally unfair.

[Demsrule86]

22. One has to wonder...this is a among many similary posts...

[semby2]

8. Huh

"emails from Clinton to Huma"

Where the hell did you get that from?

[stopbush]

9. How does one anticipate what should be turned over to law enforcement

during a witch hunt? Since when is it the job of people who may be in the legal crosshairs to tell law enforcement what they should be looking at in the form of possible evidence to support an investigation in which they may be targeted?

Did I mention that we're talking about a witch hunt? Do we really need to add a fishing expedition to the circus?

[RBInMaine]

14. You are blaming the victim. Let's get away from the right wing talking points please.

[B2G]

17. How is she a 'victim' here? nt

[RBInMaine]

18. I'm making a point. The OP is blaming her instead of the highly trained FBI agents who could

have requested whatever devices they may have wanted to examine. All they had to do was ask for all devices and/or get a warrant and go get them. I am sure that if they had requested ALL devices, she would have given it to them. From everything I have seen she was already investigated, no wrongdoing was found, she, Hillary, and everyone were all cleared. Abedine was found to NOT have mishandled any classified documents. Now she is being attacked because she didn't give the FBI her home laptop? It was HER obligation to just think to volunteer that up? If they had wanted it, they should have REQUESTED it and any other potential devices involved in this.

So yes, this is smelling bad and I have sympathy for Huma being accused here of something she shouldn't be accused of.

[Demsrule86]

21. The OP does this all the time and is very concerned.

[UMTerp01]

26. And what you do all the time is expect all of us to be sheep and have the same opinion

The "concern" meme is a broken record and a lazy response for anyone who dare be critical of any situation re: Hillary or her associates. Does this mean I'm not voting for Hillary?!! Ummm...no. I think she wins and this email thing won't change that but I can comment on what I view as plain sloppiness. I didn't say anything of criminal content; just plain sloppy.

[Demsrule86]

37. I support Democrats. You are not supposed to attack

Democrats on DU. You utter constant criticism because? If you like a candidate you see good mostly...maybe a little negativity but not all the time.

[UMTerp01]

24. How is she a victim exactly?!!! Nt

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

15. She told the FBI she had sent some emails to herself in order to print them

Sounds like these were the emails they found, which were likely just on an IMAP mail account which would go to ALL devices she set that mail account up on. IMAP mail lives on the mail server and everytime you log in on ANY new device all those mails get pushed to the device UNLESS the email is deleted. Since there was an investigation she would not have wanted to delete these emails because with IMAP if you erase a mail it erases on ALL devices, so anything sent to those personal accounts to print will forever get pushed to any device she ever signs into with that account UNTIL she deletes them.

All they have to do is look and see if this is an IMAP mail account or not. If it is and they saw the emails on another device then these are NOT new emails.

[jham123]

35. You are on to it

Not many are thinking like you "WE" are thinking.

This latest PC or Laptop was huma's PERSONAL PC at home....the FBI asked for work related emails or machines, She most likely let them have her phone and .gov issues Laptop....which had been scrubbed.

The Wiener case hit fast and hard and the FBI investigators KNEW that digital information would lead to a conviction of Wiener, so they get a warrant, rush in and grab ALL Tech devices which included Huma's PC......on that PC is where Huma would check her work email while she was at home..

We all do it, I have 6 devices around here that all have my emails.....

Huma had no idea Wiener was going to get busted, she had no FBI warning, un-Related and BIASED (yes Biased as they wanted to bury Wiener this time) agents rushed in and did their job properly, grabbed all potential evidence and vwala....

[exboyfil]

16. I am shocked that they had a four plus year old computer

Who says democrats aren't fiscally conservative.

[DURHAM D]

19. The NY FBI office has had it for a couple of months.

They know it only has dups of prior reviewed emails.

[PoliticAverse]

29. The NY office has it because they are the ones investigating Weiner. They wouldn't have access...

to the emails from the investigation of Clinton's server.

[DURHAM D]

34. Yes they would. nt

[Demsrule86]

20. More attacks...

so transparent...these emails were on the state server and were printed using Huma's computer...more bullshit from GOP hack Comey...and enjoy yourself while you can. This is a nothing story...and the faux outrage...(we know) is so silly.

[randome]

25. Bullshit. Being in politics does not mean every device you own is subject to examination.

You're making far more of this than it deserves.
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[UMTerp01]

28. It is if classified emails were forwarded to it

Sorry.i know some of us want to just gloss over this but Hillary herself already admitted it was a mistake so yeah if these are new emails......

This isn't even a Hillary thing for me. It's an oops by one of her surrogates. Bottom line...clean the sloppy handlers up going into the presidency.

[pnwmom]

40. And there is ZERO information that classified or new emails were involved.

Out of Hillary's tens of thousands of emails, only a tiny fraction involved classified info.

Why would you expect that Huma would have any?

The bottom line is that the FBI hasn't examined any of these emails yet. All they know is that they found some emails of Huma's in a device they weren't previously aware of -- but they could all be duplicates of emails they've already seen.

[mainstreetonce]

27. The FBI had to have seen these emails months ago

And Comey goes for an Oct. Surprise?

He is a political hack.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

30. QUESTION: am I understanding this correctly - this supposed investigation aka fishing expedition is

all about seeing IF there are any emails from Hillary on it at all - meaning, there may or may not be?

Im reading stuff all over incl our local rag that make it sound like damning evidence has already been found.

Classic disinformation campaign - keep repeating the lies until people believe it, even our own side.

[anneboleyn]

42. Yes, from what I understand. And yes the media keeps acting like info has been found already

which is why the FBI isn't supposed to send vague letters during a presidential campaign.

[George II]

31. Do we know they're looking at anything on her laptop? Do we know anything?

We can't know if your information is correct because no one outside of the FBI knows what "information" is being looked at. Even Comey himself in yesterday's letter says that HE doesn't have any "information".

You're jumping to a lot of conclusions.

[louis-t]

32. Most likely, it was.

And what is wrong with emails that don't have classified info going to her laptop?

[Awsi Dooger]

33. Assuming competence and intelligence from the FBI

I have no idea why that is standard practice, here or elsewhere.

I concede it's primarily in regard to true crime cases but every time I've looked into their work carefully it's astonishing how inept the organization can be. Someone with a flawed perspective is assigned as lead investigator of a specific case, and he hires assistants who share the incompetent focus. There are many related books and articles, or merely online research. It often reads like Keystone Cops or worse.

Recently I've been reading about the Colonial Parkway Murders from the late '80s. A lesbian couple were the first victims. The early local investigators and then the FBI assigned agents who had absolutely no clue about the gay community and didn't bother to study and learn. They made all types of ridiculous assumptions and it sidetracked the investigation in the early stages. The brother of one of those victims is still prominent online and he's convinced those early blunders ruined potential to solve the cases.

That's merely one example. The FBI may have famous initials but after so I'm convinced the overall caliber is far lower than conventional wisdom. A persistent theme from the books I've read is that the bureau lacks true specialists in given areas and mostly shoves agents into roles that sound close enough to their background and specialty. Square pegs here. Let's see, that leaves round pegs for the next case, whatever that may be. Sounds good.

After reading the Comey internal memo I recognized the bumbling uncertainty. More overmatched than schemer.

[Hekate]

36. Witch hunts proceed slowly. If they don't find what they want here, they'll go over there & dig....

...some more. Guilt is predetermined (they "know" Hillary is guilty of Something). Eventually they'll come up with something serviceable, or frighten some hapless soul into providing something useful. Anyone remember how Monica and her mother were ushered into Star's inquisition room, and came out white as ghosts and hardly able to walk? What do you think he threatened them with?

The perpetrators of the witch hunts are evil. They've already assembled the firewood and soaked the oil.

[pnwmom]

39. My understanding is that these emails were back-ups of Huma's that were

found on Weiner's device.

But since Comey released his incredibly cryptic statement, conflicting info is out there, so no one really knows.

[BlueStateLib]

41. The FBI knew what Huma was doing using Yahoo to print emails since her April FBI intervew

and the FBI has had possession of Anthony Weiner laptop since September 22
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/09/anthony-weiner-sexting-investigation