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Akamai

(1,779 posts)
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:20 AM Nov 2016

The FBI has lost all credibility. They are back at the times when they wrote letters to MLK, JR,

telling him that he should kill himself.

If they don't immediately repudiate all of their anti-Hillary delusional statements, we should treat them as dog excrement until they prove otherwise.

What pieces of absolute dung, the FBI turns out to be.

Fuck them and the horse they rode in on!

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Akamai

(1,779 posts)
2. Good question... Maybe not the horse. Perhaps the horse is just a useful tool, as the many drones
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:24 AM
Nov 2016

of the FBI are now. And the horse does not have much choice in the matter.

Good point you raise! And of course one horse is worth a lot, lot more than a septic tank full of Giulianis. Because, among other things, the horse doesn't know better and Rudy knows he is lying, lying, lying.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
5. Absolutely totally partisan politics. Screw them and the ships they arrived on!
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:35 AM
Nov 2016

Reminds me of the joke about the terribleness of lawyers: "It's the 99% that give the 1% a bad name!" Well that's it for effing Republican leaders.

They know their arguments are bullshit and so they repeat them and warn people of even more dire consequence, more extreme evils by the democrats.

Jesus! I don't even want to think about the perfidy they say they think Hillary is capable of. Killing kids? Abusing families? Putting lead in people's water?

One operative phrase above is "they say they think" -- but they know Hillary is not capable of that. They are just making more extreme and more lurid arguments. They pretend that they think the worst things possible, and in saying that, they set the marker for their words ever further beyond the pale.

They have left the land of reality. The Trump rallies show people who know they can say they believe anything and other people will say they believe the same thing -- and they are LYING! LYING! Like Obama was born outside the US, etc.

And the effing mainstream media DOES NOT CALL THEM OUT, except occasionally.

Go Hillary!!!

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
11. Lead in water? They must be blaming her for Flint disaster, done by Republican-appointed manager
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 02:13 AM
Nov 2016

The state government of Michigan is fully Republican-run. The Republican governor appointed an "emergency manager" for the city of Flint. That guy made the decision to switch obtaining Flint city water over to what he thought would be a cheaper source. It was not properly pre-treated before being allowed into pipes, so impurities in that new water reacted with the lead in the old water pipes, leeching lead from the pipes to put the lead into the water. Republican job start to finish. Sounds like they're trying to blame Hillary for that. As she said, blame her for everything; as Donald answered, why not?

As far as killing children, I think they are calling aborted fetuses children. They also think acorns are oak trees, I suppose. Their complaint is probably that Hillary does not want a blanket Federal-level prohibition on all abortion regardless of circumstances, and she probably supports Planned Parenthood too. It seems quite a leap in interpretation.

Yes, they lie. Donald lies the most. Fact-checking websites like Snopes.com, FactCheck.org, and PolitiFact.com give him about the highest rating ever for lying frequency; he lies far more times than he tells the truth -- not an easy feat. (76%?) A story in usnews.com says:
Fact-checking site PolitiFact has named the Donald Trump's "collective misstatements" its "Lie of the Year."
"In considering our annual Lie of the Year, we found our only real contenders were Trump’s -- his various statements also led our Readers’ Poll," PolitiFact wrote on its website. "But it was hard to single one out from the others. So we have rolled them into one big trophy."

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015-12-21/fact-checking-website-donald-trump-lies-76-percent-of-the-time

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
12. Newsweek, Washington Post, New York Times are mainstream media and they have said much
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 03:04 AM
Nov 2016

about Trump's dishonesty. On TV you can find Rachel Maddow on MSNBC. Virtually all of the late night comedians are scathing on the subject of Trump, night after night. Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah, Bill Maher, I can't remember all their names.

Here are some links to fairly old (September) stories about it
http://fortune.com/2016/09/27/presidential-debate-late-night-hosts/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-political-debate-late-night-comedy-20160926-column.html
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/presidential-debate-late-night-hosts-932282

Newer articles:
http://tvline.com/2016/11/05/trump-clinton-late-night-videos-best-worst-snl-samantha-bee/
http://tvline.com/2016/11/03/seth-meyers-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-election-day-video/

The situation is dire, yes; but there's no need to view it as worse than it actually is. Hillary still has a 2 out of 3 chance of winning even with all the vitriol. Though not as good as I'd like, her odds are still twice as good as Trump's odds.

Kick back and watch the videos. Chill out. Then --
Volunteer to work on getting out the vote: Here is the link to get you started:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/start/

After you've signed up, you can click the link below (which someone else already posted on DU) and that should guide you to make phone calls to swing states (if you don't happen to live in a swing state, you can still help out this way):
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/swingstate/

and here are more links to videos to entertain and cheer you up:

This link points to an (August 30th) article that contains a link to a Rachel Maddow video report on a then-recent (true and reputable) poll which showed, among other things, that Hillary had a 5 point lead over Donald. She also reported on Donald's favorability ratings. He was ahead of bed bugs, although among African-American and Latino voters it was the reverse: the bed bugs were better liked than Trump.
http://www.salon.com/2016/08/30/watch-rachel-maddow-read-a-list-of-things-more-popular-than-trump-a-significant-chunk-of-the-country-would-prefer-the-bubonic-plague

The Hillary shimmy:
best version imho:


variation:


Tecate Beer Wall advert


President OBAMA Mocks TRUMP'S Nonsense & LIES! – 9/17/16


“C'mon Man,” Pres. Obama Destroys TRUMP LIES & GOP Hypocrites! 10/14/16


Stephen Colbert: The Dalai Lama Does A Great Donald Trump Impression



ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
6. Comey even keeps a souvenir of the FBI's harassment of MLK in his office!
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:57 AM
Nov 2016

"Comey keeps on his desk a copy of the FBI request to wiretap Martin Luther King, Jr., "as a reminder of the bureau's capacity to do wrong.""

yeah, sure dude. I said this before when the first email stuff was coming out and people on here claimed that the FBI couldn't possibly be political.

stevebreeze

(1,877 posts)
7. Comey is worthless...
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 01:14 AM
Nov 2016

The Comey letter only made the claim that some emails may exist on Huma Abedin's husband's laptop. That is all Comeys letter claims. The media flips out about that? really?
Using federal agencies to influence elections is one of the things that Nixon got impeachment charges drawn up for. The Use of the IRS and other federal agencies to prosecute "enemies"

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
17. You should like this story then: Today Tim Kaine says FBI actively working to help Trump
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 04:46 AM
Nov 2016

Here is the link to the story. Embedded in the story looks like a video link.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-fbi_us_581e970ee4b0e80b02ca9001

Tim Kaine: Some FBI Employees Are ‘Actively Working’ To Help Trump
11/05/2016 11:20 pm ET Updated 3 hours ago

Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Kaine accused people in the FBI of “actively working” in support of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign on Saturday, becoming the most prominent politician yet to level the charge after a week of extraordinary FBI leaks that appear to be intended to influence the outcome of the election.

In an interview with Fusion’s Alicia Menendez, Kaine speculated that FBI Director James Comey wrote his letter to Congress because “he knew that the FBI was not only a leaky sieve, but there were people within the FBI actively working ― actively working ― to try to help the Trump campaign.” Calling the situation “absolutely staggering,” Kaine said the events of the past eight days have been “a massive blow to the integrity” of the FBI.
. . .

Kaine said, “There are clearly people in the organization” who are trying to “put their thumb on the scale in an election."

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
13. More Links to satire on Trump -- Lighten up and laugh -- and Akamai, please not that with the horse
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 04:03 AM
Nov 2016

Just found this list of links I'd saved. Funny stuff on Trump.

On a serious note, Akamai, yes the FBI have lost any credibility they might have otherwise previously had, but no they aren't excrement, guilty, or anything else until proven so; that's our system; It isn't "guilty until they prove otherwise", it's "Innocent until proven guilty".

And one other thing, Akamai -- if you do what you suggested to the horse, you would seem to be almost as deviant as Donald Trump seems to be. And shall we assume you are, "until [you] prove otherwise"? Maybe it's just locker room talk . . .

Come to think of it, combining your two statements, treating them as excrement and also effing them, are we to conclude that you do that not just with horses but also with excrement? Shall we just assume yes, until you prove otherwise? Or are you simply suggesting that we, the readers, should perform said action with FBI Agents, excrement, and horses? It just doesn't sound at all appealing, not any of it.

Chill out and watch the funny videos. They might make you feel better.

Trump's Basket of Inexplicables | Real Time with Bill Maher



Lesser Known Trump Endorsements | Real Time with Bill Maher


Yes, This is Really Happening | Real Time with Bill Maher


Mark Cuban Takes The Gloves Off: Donald Trump Edition
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert


Focus group of Real Trump supporters watch Trump satire commercials (15 minutes long)
Published on Aug 11, 2016. Hulu.
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog stages a focus group with Trump’s biggest supporters, presenting a series of increasingly outrageous and extremely fake campaign ads, to find out how far they’re willing to go in support of their candidate.


 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
18. You are aware of the gross transgressions in policy Comey engaged in and you want me to "Chill out"?
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 12:05 PM
Nov 2016

for too many decades, Democrats have rolled over and of not responded vigorously to the lies and wrongdoing of the Republicans. Comey's action was egregious, unprecedented, and may well cost Hillary the Senate and quite a few House seats. Also, Comey has refused to tell us the truth -- that the FBI has nothing to support his vague warnings.

The mainstream media, all Republican leaders, Giuliani, Tromp, FOX News, etc., feel that they can repeat and amplify the lies given by Trump and right wing extremists.

Lies about Hillary, Obama, the Democratic Party, have been uttered with total impunity by right-wing extremists and their wealthy corporate supporters for year after year. Indeed, remember the words of Les Moonves, CEO of CBS in May of this year?

From http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/leslie-moonves-donald-trump-may-871464 :

"Leslie Moonves can appreciate a Donald Trump candidacy.

"Not that the CBS executive chairman and CEO might vote for the Republican presidential frontrunner, but he likes the ad money Trump and his competitors are bringing to the network.

""It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS," he said of the presidential race.

"Moonves called the campaign for president a "circus" full of "bomb throwing," and he hopes it continues.

""Most of the ads are not about issues. They're sort of like the debates," he said.

""Man, who would have expected the ride we're all having right now? ... The money's rolling in and this is fun," he said.

""I've never seen anything like this, and this going to be a very good year for us. Sorry. It's a terrible thing to say. But, bring it on, Donald. Keep going," said Moonves."

*******************

So he says, "It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS." "The money's rolling in and this is fun."

That is utterly, utterly evil and shows how corrupt the major media are.

We also have to remember that Trump's lies are not simply careless prevarications but they fit a pattern of dog whistles which systematically alienate voters from general society and also systematically draw them into Trump's tent of xenophobia, misogyny, and logic-free support for what he is saying. His followers are easily led by authoritarian Trump and they believe everything he says -- well at least as much of it as it takes to elect him president and may to rebel when he fails.

An excellent recent article on the issues of Trump's lies is by Jason Stanley, Published Two Days Ago in the New York Times: "Beyond Line: Donald Trump's Authoritarian Reality." (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/opinion/beyond-lying-donald-trumps-authoritarian-reality.html?_r=0)

So no, I'm not going to follow your suggestion to just "chill out". This election is too important and the consequences are far too dire to "just go with the flow." And I'm sure that many, many millions of Hillary and Obama supporters share the same beliefs I do.

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