2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI believe Trump will give a kind ,respectful, and honorable concession speech..Why?
for one reason only......because whatever is left of his so called "brand" , he will try to save it..
Also, a kind, respectful and honorable concession speech, will be his most watched speech ever. Even though he is having major issues, if he keeps it short and to the point, it could offer him some peace as he tries to recover from this loss.
Perhaps this is wishful thinking, but it makes sense for Trump and his family. In trying to save his name for his family, there might be enough motivation to make this speech an important and remembered one . And if he goes out with "class," it will help everyone to heal. It could be the one time that he did not think totally about himself. (even in the process of saving his name for his children) That would be good for all.
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I know this one is kind of odd, but if enough people see this, it could get back to Trump. Perhaps if someone in his staff/or family.. sees something like the above, and talks to him,,,,, it could help us all to heal..,,,
Curtland1015
(4,404 posts)I see him coming out, giving a very short thanks to all his staff and supporters and that's it.
This assumes, of course, that nothing crazy happens tomorrow in any of the swing states that allow the Repubs to flip out. But if Hillary wins decisively, and I think she will, I don't think you'll see any of his trademark stupid bluster.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)I appreciated Lady Gaga's comment and admonition last night for us to not hate the Trump supporters. So as we hope that Trump shows grace in defeat, I hope to have a generous heart towards his supporters.
They will be devastated, just as we would if Hillary lost. Kindness goes a long way.
I am hoping many Trump supporters will have a 'come to Jesus' moment after they recover from Trump fever. Continuing the hatred toward them only helps to maintain the division among us.
JustAnotherGen
(33,960 posts)There's nothing he can say or do to gain my forgiveness. His supporters will never be forgiven by me either.
I am not obligated to make nicey nice with people who hate me.
I will not watch his concession speech. He needs to shut up and never speak in public again. He represents pickup trucks with confederate flags, make America Great Again/Trump Pence decals in NJ. I know what these people are and they are not forgiven.
Watch them riot and protest when his sorry ass loses tonight. They ain't shit, never have been, never will be.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Two different things. Hate is poison that makes people stupid. Hating back holds their hatred in place. I don't hate the Trumpsters, because I see that they are truly ignorant and selfish. It's one thing to deplore their stupidity, quite another to hate them personally.
JustAnotherGen
(33,960 posts)I can't hate an "it".
no_hypocrisy
(49,476 posts)vormgieter
(31 posts)But that would be his old brand.
The one that is polished and shiny and expensive.
Designed for his old customers, rich people looking for ways to shine.
People that of late seem to be avoiding the old Trump brand.
His new customers are less affluent and more angry.
They follow him and worship at his rallying sermons.
They chant the sacred Wall and Lock hymns and
buy the relics to express their opinions to the world.
People that cannot afford his old brand products.
People that watch tv.
Trumpty DumpTV does not necessarily need
a kind, respectful, and honorable concession speech.
Chemisse
(31,016 posts)And he may fear losing his 'followers' if he lets up on the nasty rhetoric.
vormgieter
(31 posts)They are eternally sad, forgotten, and ridiculed.
Desperately in need of attention, preferably in the shape of a goat to scape.
He cannot allow the flow of goat to stop!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)be himself. I.e., he will go with his mood of the moment, which is totally unpredictable as the Kremlin belatedly worried--and deny the consequences later.
A third option, both fanning the go-low anger and belatedly posturing on the high road, would be to pose as a dignified statesman victimized by a crooked system. If he's in control of himself, this potentially very profitable one's my best guess.
vormgieter
(31 posts)Trumpty Dumpty, built a big wall,
Trumpty Dumpty, will show them all!
And neither endorsers nor congressmen,
know they'd better get behind him just as fast as they can!
Trumpty Dumpty, high on his wall,
Trumpty Dumpty, will make the call!
And all his enforcers, Open Carrying Men,
know its their turn to make America Great Again!
Trumpty Dumpty, behind his wall,
Trumpty Dumpty's lies spin out of control!
And all for the worse his past just caught up again:
accusers lie big league believe me, we all know i'm innocent!
Trumpty Dumpty, jumps the crumblin wall,
Trumpty DumpTV will start come this fall!
And all the remorsers, they know by then,
that America was great before their shit hit the fan!
DFW
(56,974 posts)Hey Mister Tangerine Man, you are wrong for me
Im not stupid and you just are not worth listening to
Hey Mister Tangerine Man, you are wrong for me
And when this elections over, whos remembering you?
Though Priebus and the right wing empire told you to pound sand
Vlad Putin held your hand
Left Ted Cruz to cry with Rand, both softly weeping
Your ignorance amazes me, it caught me off my feet
And it knocks me from my seat
Like an animal in heat, you still come creeping
Hey Mister Tangerine Man, you are wrong for me
Im not stupid and you just are not worth listening to
Hey Mister Tangerine Man, you are wrong for me
And when this elections over, whos remembering you?
vormgieter
(31 posts)truly is an inspiring person
DFW
(56,974 posts)I made a music video which should be up tonight. It wasn't very flattering to Mr. Tangerine Man, even though it wasn't principally about him.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Cha
(306,162 posts)have it go deeper into the latrine than concede to Madam President.
But, that's a good point you have on why he should.
manicraven
(901 posts)Maybe it will be like the debates and Trump will start out pretty steady and seem slightly stable and then lose it as he seems unable to hold things together for very long. Or, maybe he's exhausted and wants to get his life back and start repairing his "brand." Plus, just maybe, deep down, he actually likes Hillary as he was at least friendly with the Clintons in the past, so maybe he's ready to end this weird campaign on a slightly higher note? But I could be way too hopeful as time and time again he's been shockingly abrasive and aggressive and has no concern whatsoever about tradition or dignity, etc.
I guess only time will tell!
femmedem
(8,460 posts)I fear an awful, angry backlash from his supporters if he says it was rigged.
VOX
(22,976 posts)My best guess is that Trump's toxic ego will not allow him to agree to play (and graciously lose) by any traditional rules or just plain doing what's right for the greater good. Time and again he has pushed fair play aside, like not submitting IRS returns (which has been done for 40 years!).
Betting that he's not going to easily concede, if at all; it's "all rigged" in his mind. A spotlight-hogging, bloviating, trash-entertainment, narcissistic bully can't pass up all the media attention he's gotten. Look for him (and his brainwashed devotees) to be the country's major headache for a long time to come.
Note: I'd love to be proven wrong, though.
BlueMTexpat
(15,512 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,512 posts)In his behavior during this election cycle leads me to believe that he will. I would love to be proven wrong.
Jeroen
(1,061 posts)He will go in a Twitter rage about the election being stolen from him.
C_U_L8R
(45,843 posts)And he'll probably thank no one except himself
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)SamKnause
(13,930 posts)Everything out of his mouth is a lie.
I don't care what he has to say about anything.
dalton99
(781 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)he's a good businessman.
He's not. His ego far exceeds his business acumen.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)But it's hard to imagine him wanting a room full of people booing him.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)and claim it was rigged etc. and lash out to the cheers of his crowd of deplorables. He never admits to defeat or that he is wrong, Perhaps his handlers will be able to convince him to adhere to concession protocol and I will be proven wrong!
Demsrule86
(71,036 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,688 posts)I just look forward to seeing him squirm and eventually do the perp walk.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)CentralMass
(15,652 posts)and give at least a somewhat bitter concession speech. However, you would hope that they have a good speech writer that helped draft A great one and that he sticks to it.
redwitch
(15,102 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)I'm not sure he will give a concession speech per se. He will lose, and he will give a speech, but he is unable to concede anything.
He will dogwhistle his supporters.
Rigged
2nd amendment
Crooked Hillary
Corrupt media
2nd amendment
Sue everyone
VengeancePAC
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)way or sprinkle a few sane comments in but it will devolve. We heard him this a.m. again saying how all this will be a yuuggee waste of time and money if he loses. What a dick!
I was certain he would be "normal" in that first debate...we all see how that went.
senseandsensibility
(20,486 posts)Not going to happen.