Trump Voters & Non Voters-Voted to take The Safety Net away from their children & grandchildren

[kpete]

Donald Trump and Republican leaders in Congress have made clear they are serious about repealing Obamacare, and doing so quickly. But don’t assume their dismantling of government health insurance programs will stop there. For about two decades now, Republicans have been talking about radically changing the government’s two largest health insurance programs, Medicaid and Medicare.

The goal with Medicaid is to turn the program almost entirely over to the states, but with less money to run it. The goal with Medicare is to convert it from a government-run insurance program into a voucher system ― while, once again, reducing the money that goes into the program.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has championed these ideas for years. Trump has not. In fact, in a 2015 interview his campaign website highlighted, he vowed that “I’m not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid.” But the health care agenda on Trump’s transition website, which went live Thursday, vows to “modernize Medicare” and allow more “flexibility” for Medicaid.

The Administration recognizes that the problems with the U.S. health care system did not begin with – and will not end with the repeal of – the ACA. With the assistance of Congress and working with the States, as appropriate, the Administration will act to:

Protect individual conscience in healthcare
Protect innocent human life from conception to natural death, including the most defenseless and those Americans with disabilities
Advance research and development in healthcare
Reform the Food and Drug Administration, to put greater focus on the need of patients for new and innovative medical products
Modernize Medicare, so that it will be ready for the challenges with the coming retirement of the Baby Boom generation – and beyond
Maximize flexibility for States in administering Medicaid, to enable States to experiment with innovative methods to deliver healthcare to our low-income citizens

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/16/1600307/-Ignore-Bannon-It-is-a-Medicare-Medicaid-Obamacare-bait-switch




In Washington, those are euphemisms for precisely the kind of Medicare and Medicaid plans Ryan has long envisioned. And while it’s never clear what Trump really thinks or how he’ll act, it sure looks like both he and congressional Republicans are out to undo Lyndon Johnson’s health care legacy, not just Barack Obama’s.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obamacare-medicaid-medicare-gop-chopping-block_us_582a19b8e4b060adb56fbae7

[duffyduff]

1. They aren't going to succeed because it would be the end of the GOP

I don't understand why Daily Kos posts from bloggers are considered serious analysis.

[OKNancy]

3. thank you! they mess with Medicare (or Social Security) and they are gone. Poof. out of office

They have tried it before but they will get AARP and other senior groups on their asses.

It's not going to happen.
I am concerned about the ACA, but as far as I can tell it will be gradual and by god, we could stop it if we could take back Congress in 2018.

[kpete]

4. Republicans do have a position & they already voted for it:

The gist: Almost all of them already voted for it. So they can't say they don't know anything about it or don't have a position. They do have a position. They voted for it. It's just a question of whether they're going to support it again now that there's no President Obama they can rely on to veto it
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-toolkit
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-tool-kit-for-sleuthing-out-medicare-phaseout

[yallerdawg]

2. They want vouchers to the states.

They cut taxes, cut benefits, send money in fixed block grants based on declining revenue from their tax cuts - and the shortfalls and rising healthcare costs will be assumed by the states or the individual needing the care.

Great way to reduce the "surplus population"!