2016 Postmortem
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1. How does Hillary get over 1 million votes more than Trump and still lose the election? This means certain swing state voters' vote means more than my California vote.
2. How do we in the US still have voting machines with no reliable way to accurately recount the vote and make sure no cheating has occurred? Doesn't this seem stupid for a country in this day and age? Why do our leaders both Democratic and Republican allow this travesty to continue?
3. Why did the FBI take sides in this election? They never actually pulled Trump in and put him under oath and find out his Putin connections. Why not? They did everything they could with Hillary's email. Why?
I could go for more but why bother. These three are enough to start with.
MFM008
(19,823 posts)to many.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)we need to start a gofundme to get enough money to hire someone with smarts to help us prove the election was stolen. I don't hear anyone in power saying it, but it needs to be said. It needs to be investigated. And the truth needs to come out. Unfortunately, the only thing that talks these days is money.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Makes you wonder what's really going on here doesn't it?7
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)im pissed
longship
(40,416 posts)I do not take the stolen election is going to work here.
Why in the fuck, when a candidate loses a close election, is the narrative that it was "stolen".
Why not just admit that we lost?
The truth is that Hillary Clinton lost a close, and fair, election.
Generator
(7,770 posts)All I know is we better fight like hell or we will never have an election to win again. I pray to whoever gives a shit up there that Trump is brought down by Putin since it seems like he was selected by him. I am getting old but I will protest this bullshit to my last breath.
And yes you are correct-the elections-voters suppression-electoral college-voting on tuesday-on and on and on. We can't win anything if we don't fix this.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)"The thing is, though, Russia just meddled in our presidential election. Directly and in full view. And they did to help the candidate, who has many ties to Russia, get elected. Shouldn't somebody do something about that?" -- CURRENT National Security Agency Adm. Michael Rogers, head of the NSA and the U.S. Cyber Command
This is from TPM today (via Kos):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/16/1600424/-NSA-chief-Nation-state-intervened-in-election-to-achieve-a-specific-effect
SharonAnn
(13,780 posts)That's the way the Electoral College works.
Also note that we've lost 2 out the last five elections this way (Gore and Clinton). That's 40% of the elections in the last 16 years.
Also, Democrats got more votes in 6 out of 7 elections, the presidential contests in 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012, 2016. And I'm still suspicious about 2004 and Ohio with the vote server being hosted at a Chattanooga GOP firm, two key counties election counting being shut down for hours and then all of a sudden "W" was ahead, and the "expert" dying in a small plane crash before testifying.