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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 03:15 PM Nov 2016

Ideas I would recommend for 2018 and 2020.

1)Social Justice/Anti-Oppression-keep that, and STRENGTHEN it. All of it. The only change I'd make there would be in tone-that is, to find a way of framing the duties of white America as responsibility to end the injustices and heal the wounds, not so much guilt over the past. If we frame it as responsibility, it's a way to create the consciousness of being part of making things better, not shame over things that happened before they were born. Most white people are beneficiaries of oppression...but they didn't personally create it and guilt-based language(justifiable as it is on a deep moral level)doesn't bring them in to do what they should be doing. The language of guilt doesn't work-the language of responsibility and problem-solving and healing can.

2)Foreign Policy-make it about defending our own territory from attack, and pull back as much as possible from military intervention elsewhere. We have spent the last thirteen years witnessing the fact that military intervention in the Arab/Muslim world is futile. A lot of voters would LIKE to see us pull back from endless war, while still protecting ourselves, which is what the military SHOULD be for.

3)Immigration-if it must be better controlled, control it by supporting anti-austerity politics in the countries people immigrate from(particularly in the Americas); if it is poverty, inequality and desperation that leads people to come here, than it's not in our national interest to do anything to increase poverty, inequality and desperation.

4)Economic policy-If "the old jobs aren't coming back" to places like the Upper Midwest, then it is a national priority to invest(including advocating state investment if nothing else will work in the short-term due to "market forces&quot in creating new, high-paying, dignity-enhancing jobs that create a sense of community and hope in the places where they exist. We should be pushing for state and national co-op banks, for measures to make it easier for workers to re-employ themselves by re-opening enterprizes their former bosses closed(and using them to make other products as necessary) As other leaders once said(falsely) "no child left behind", we should now be saying(sincerely) "no worker left behind". And it doesn't matter if we don't have the votes to get such measures through Congress right now...we need to introduce them and to use the acts of introducing them to organize people for continuing action.


5) Trade policy-if we negotiate any MORE trade agreements, make it clear that we will not agree to any language in the agreements that treats wage scales, social benefits, labor laws, environmental protection laws and product safety regulations as "subsidies" that corporations can combat in international tribunals that mostly rule in favor of corporations and against people. It's not "protection" to have decent social values. Put labor, ethnic/religious/racial minority, consumer and environmental representatives on the negotiating teams, so that the global majority has some of the say on these agreements.

If we can make things like that part of our offer for the future, we can make turnout soar and create the anti-oppression, pro-inclusion society that ALL of us on the left support.

Offered in the hope of future victory.

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LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
1. We need to obtain lists of people purged (or soon to be purged) from voter rolls and react.
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 03:21 PM
Nov 2016

We need to re-register these people and we need donors to pony up the funds to obtain the necessary documents (be it birth certificates and/or state approved voter ID cards) so these people can vote. We need to spend the next two and four years getting as many of our supporters onto the voting rolls.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
3. Militarily we should become isolationists? That seems a bit myopic to me ... but can you elaborate?
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 03:23 PM
Nov 2016

Do we ignore our commitments to other nations? To our allies?

Frankly I think our national interests extend far beyond our physical borders, and it's kind of naive to view the world in the way you've described and try to come up with some grand policy based on that belief.

Imagine if Kennedy felt the way you do. We'd have Russian nuclear missiles in Cuba. "Hey! Not within our borders proper, so what the fuck, eh? Let 'er ride!"

Where do you guys come up with this stuff??

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
4. We would never have had Russian missiles in Cuba at all
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 03:32 PM
Nov 2016

if it hadn't been for the CIA/State Department decision to invade Cuba in and try and put the old order back in power.

And if JFK had felt the way I do, we'd never have ended up in Vietnam.

Basically every use of American force after World War II has been a pointless waste of lives and resources.

It isn't possible to use force to mold the world to our leaders' specifications.

Our interests SHOULD be the creation of global stability through social, environmental, and economic justice for all..."no HUMAN left behind". That approach would give us a much less volatile world at much lower cost.

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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
6. Here's the post-1945 record(and in saying "we" below, I'm talking about leaders of both parties)
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 03:46 PM
Nov 2016

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Korea: a meaningless stalemate that entrenched the House of Kim in the DPRK.

Guatemala: we caused the overthrow of a progressive democratic government because it offended the United Fruit Company and put a brutal military dictatorship in its place that still effectively rules the place behind a facade of "election";

The Dominican Republic: We abetted the overthrow of a democratic government and its replacement by an authoritarian semi-democracy that governed solely for the wealthy.

Vietnam:unwinnable, imperialist and known to be both by everyone who got us into it and kept us there.

Everything we subsidized in Central America in the Eighties(including the bandit "Contra" army we invented in Nicaragua)-a fight to keep the rich in power over the poor. Also, the source of a lot of the continuing undocumented immigration that Trump so effectively exploited as an issue.

The Anti-Muslim Wars, 2003-? : A bloodsoaked record of failure. Nothing would be worse in that region if we'd withdrawn militarily on 1/20/09. We should never have stayed in the trap Bush and Cheney placed for us on that.

Columbia, continuous since the mid-1980s: We perpetuated a long-term civil war that could have been ended through sincere negotiations decades ago.

Kosovo is the only possible example of any other result, and that's mixed at best. Even if it had some mildly humanitarian intent, that intervention had the disastrous effect of convincing the establishment of OUR party that bombing could somehow be liberal.

What I've listed there is basically everything.

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