2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWho in the Administration came up with the bright idea to sent healthcare to the Courts in 2012
Right smack in the election year.If the black robes knock it down as Unconstitutional it will be the biggest blunder ever in an election year
rfranklin
(13,200 posts)I had the impression that it was the Republican governors who forced the issue.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)and it was there idea to send it up to the Supreme Court in 2012 I wasn't aware of this myself
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)NOT
jeff47
(26,549 posts)former9thward
(32,005 posts)There are all sorts of procedural moves the Dept of Justice can use to speed or slow down an appeal. http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2011/09/29/obama-health-care-supreme-court/
lastlib
(23,226 posts)It was not the Admin's idea to take to court.
former9thward
(32,005 posts)movonne
(9,623 posts)know ......When the SC knocks it down.. people of this country find out the horror of not having any health care they will demand health coverage for all..yeah right...
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Bobcat
(246 posts)Not necessarily a blunder. Read Frank Rich's NYT blog today...
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)No other comment necessary.
Alexander
(15,318 posts)In fact, that used to be the administration's position.
Instead, they changed their minds and argued the fine is not a tax, and the case can be decided in 2012. It also led to some legal contortions. As Alito pointed out, the Solicitor General argued on one day that the fine is a tax, only to come back and argue the next day that it isn't a tax.
Just say it's a tax, kick the can down the road until 2015 (when the first fines will be paid) and be done with it. That should've been the legal strategy.
onenote
(42,702 posts)Yes, the administration could have made that argument. But that doesn't mean the courts would have bought it. Indeed, there is no reason to think that they would. Even Ginsburg seemed unimpressed with that argument. Were there things that the administration could have done to slow the case's progress through the courts? Probably so. But arguing that the individual mandate was a tax was not, in and of itself, one of those things.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)The original plaintiff was Florida that originally took the case to a lower court which got passed up to the SCOTUS and they agreed to hear the case. The administration had zero to do with this. I'm sure they would have prefered the court had passed on it.
Tweety was refering to trying to pass Health care in a second term vs. a first one...where the 2013 line came in...assuming that the Democrats had retained control of both houses. Typical Tweety psychobabble...
Arkana
(24,347 posts)They didn't file the court case.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)And because Obama's re-election is going to have far more to do with where the economy is than what the Supreme Court decides on this case.
fightforfreedom123
(87 posts)The Federal Supreme Court cannot.
The Federal Congress can.
Nice try.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)administration, but in this instance, you're off the mark.
26 states are suing the government over the ACA. The SCOTUS agreed to hear their case.