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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:59 AM Dec 2016

So its looking like the recounts are rigged...

Drump is actually gaining votes?!? That sounds totally believable! I think our only hope is to get the Russian hacking information to the electoral college voters within the next week. Obama needs to declare an executive action to make sure every electoral college voter receives all classified information on Russian hacking.

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So its looking like the recounts are rigged... (Original Post) Joe941 Dec 2016 OP
We've never improved the counting or re-counting process since 2000. SharonAnn Dec 2016 #1
Newer machines, fewer paper trails, decreasing audit ability TXCritter Dec 2016 #2
Just remember... LP2K12 Dec 2016 #3
Since we don't really need to know the results of each election within a couple hours... Frustratedlady Dec 2016 #4
" I think our only hope " NCTraveler Dec 2016 #5
Exactly n/t SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #9
Pretty much Dem2 Dec 2016 #14
The recount was never a real hope? mtnsnake Dec 2016 #18
Desperation leadds to desperate acts n/t SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #19
Desperation. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #20
That's the problem with "demanding" recounts with no evidence original tally was substantively Hoyt Dec 2016 #6
I wouldn't put something in an email... Blanks Dec 2016 #7
Yep SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #11
Yup. Emails go all over the place, and once you send it, security depends on other systems. Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #13
I don't think they were permitted to recount the WI absentee/early and provisional votes. ucrdem Dec 2016 #8
They did count SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #10
There is no information or even evidence, classified or not, that shows the vote totals were hacked. Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #12
Vote totals no... Ballot and tabulator machines... maybe that's what Turtle said no to protecting uponit7771 Dec 2016 #15
The vote totals come from those machines, which are not connected to the internet Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #16
Since you don't like the recount results, what other explanation could there possibly be? tritsofme Dec 2016 #17

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
1. We've never improved the counting or re-counting process since 2000.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 12:00 PM
Dec 2016

just new machines. like putting lipstick on a pig. it's still a pig.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
4. Since we don't really need to know the results of each election within a couple hours...
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 12:08 PM
Dec 2016

I think it is past time to return to the old ballpoint pen and sheets of paper. ..purple thumbs wouldn't hurt. It is obvious the machines have caused nothing but heartache and headache...certainly haven't saved us any money.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. " I think our only hope "
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 12:13 PM
Dec 2016

The recount was never a real hope. It was nothing more than GP deception at the hands of the mentally bankrupt Stein.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
14. Pretty much
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:50 PM
Dec 2016

The idea that we are always being cheated is something people should take up with their therapist

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
18. The recount was never a real hope?
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:31 PM
Dec 2016

Yeah, I guess that's why millions of people donated to it because they thought it was such a waste of time.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
20. Desperation.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:56 PM
Dec 2016

Those willing to read what Stein put out in the first 48 hours of her money grab were able to see what she was doing. her statements on how the money will be used changes daily.

Here is a little clue. How much was raised for the recount? Fact is you have no idea. Stein is a snake oil salesman.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. That's the problem with "demanding" recounts with no evidence original tally was substantively
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 12:26 PM
Dec 2016

incorrect. I get we didn't like the results and couldn't believe white wingers are that stupid, but that is not a reason to demand a recount.

So far, I don't see where the "hacking" had any direct impact on voting, certainly nothing that would justify another election other than we are dissatisfied with the result. If there is proof of that, we have something. If it is no more than releasing some DNC emails, we need to learn how to protect emails, not put condensing info in emails, and maybe avoid improper action period.

Sure, I'd love for Clinton to sneak in, but I'm not sure it would bode well for the future of elections in this country.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
7. I wouldn't put something in an email...
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 12:32 PM
Dec 2016

That I wouldn't want to read in the newspaper.

If we were 'done in' by the contents of emails, we were dumb.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
11. Yep
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:29 PM
Dec 2016

Plus, it's not hard to hack an email account when the owner (Podesta) gives you the damned password.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
13. Yup. Emails go all over the place, and once you send it, security depends on other systems.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:48 PM
Dec 2016

This whole thing is stupid.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
8. I don't think they were permitted to recount the WI absentee/early and provisional votes.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 12:43 PM
Dec 2016

In other words they allowed to recount what they were allowed to recount. Surprise, no changes!

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
12. There is no information or even evidence, classified or not, that shows the vote totals were hacked.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:47 PM
Dec 2016

When they are talking about hacking, they are talking mostly about the DNC email hack.

I don't know how anyone could possibly believe that any foreign power could hack machines which are not connected to the internet and would have to be physically approached, one by one.

If you actually know anything that would indicate that the vote is inaccurate, mention it here.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
16. The vote totals come from those machines, which are not connected to the internet
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:11 PM
Dec 2016

Do you - does ANYONE - seriously believe that the Russians had a team of people wandering into polling places, one by one to futz the machines as those responsible went off to take a bathroom break?

Really???

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
17. Since you don't like the recount results, what other explanation could there possibly be?
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:27 PM
Dec 2016

Either it turns out the way I like, or it is rigged. Ah, to live simply...

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