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shayes51

(1,105 posts)
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 10:46 AM Jan 2013

Exactly where does the NRA draw a line?

Serious question: Just where does the NRA draw the line on personal ownership of arms? Do they think it's okay for people to walk around the mall with assault weapons? Is it okay to take them to sporting events, bars? Would it be fine if people could own their own little atomic bomb? After all, the government has them, and if they throw one my way, should I be able to throw one back at them? And what about people with mental illness? If you've ever been diagnosed with depression, does that disqualify you from gun ownership? Having a national registry of persons with mental illness would not have stopped the shooting at Sandy Hook as the shooter did not buy the gun.

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Exactly where does the NRA draw a line? (Original Post) shayes51 Jan 2013 OP
Their job is to sell guns. Turbineguy Jan 2013 #1
Winner winner chicken dinner SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #3
How does the NRA profit from gun sales? ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #4
Are you sure? SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #6
Of course he knew that. aandegoons Jan 2013 #7
So your claim is based not based on direct profits ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #8
I never said direct profits. SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #9
Certainly inferred it in the your first post ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #10
No, I did not imply that. If you want to infer that, that's your misunderstanding. SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #12
I certainly hope the progressive professor is not a professor of English. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #19
I am actually a math professor. Not sure what the progressive professor teachers but SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #21
Not sure what he teaches either, but if he doesn't know the difference between "infer" and "imply," Chorophyll Jan 2013 #22
It will take the death of one of their own by guns before they even think about changing. stultusporcos Jan 2013 #2
One of their own won't matter. Kablooie Jan 2013 #14
They draw the line with chalk ... to outline the bodies of the victims. 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #5
That was my first thought too. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #18
The more guns that are in the hand of consumers/members Tippy Jan 2013 #11
AFAIK they don't oppose the 1934 NFA, but do oppose the Hughes amendment Recursion Jan 2013 #13
They don't draw lines MurrayDelph Jan 2013 #15
I have a feeling that if black and brown folk started stockpiling guns, the NRA and its minions Empowerer Jan 2013 #16
Maybe when one of theirs is mowed down? meow2u3 Jan 2013 #17
Doubt it. They're too far gone. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #20

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
1. Their job is to sell guns.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 10:48 AM
Jan 2013

That's it.

It's not the principle, it's the money.

But then again, maybe it is the principle. The principle of creating terror.

SWTORFanatic

(385 posts)
3. Winner winner chicken dinner
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:08 AM
Jan 2013

They don't give a fuck. Whatever helps sell more GUNS and GUN accessories.

Explosives, tanks, jets, etc? They aren't in that business.

SWTORFanatic

(385 posts)
6. Are you sure?
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:12 PM
Jan 2013

The NRA is a 501(c)(4) organization and indicated that the NRA's total income in 2004 was $205,402,491

The report, Blood Money: How the Gun Industry Bankrolls the NRA, reveals that since 2005 contributions from gun industry "corporate partners" to the NRA total between $14.7 million and $38.9 million. Total donations to the NRA from all "corporate partners"--both gun industry and non-gun industry--for the same time period total between $19.8 million and $52.6 million. The vast majority of funds--74 percent--contributed to the NRA from “corporate partners” come from members of the firearms industry: companies involved in the manufacture or sale of firearms or shooting-related products

Now the second paragraph is a report from early 2011. I don't know if the report is stating contributions per year, or contributions from 2005-2010, or what their exact timeframe is. I looked at the report and didn't find that information either. Regardless, based on the first paragraph their direct gun manufacture corporate donors are small compared to their other donors and membership dues - but if those gun manufacturing companies go out of business (and no one takes their place), the NRA loses those donors. The gun industry promotes more gun buying. Many of these new gun owners join the NRA. Their membership dues and donations also bankroll the NRA. Less new gun owners = less new NRA members.

So yes, they do profit from gun sales.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
10. Certainly inferred it in the your first post
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jan 2013

What you should be looking at is the affiliated PACs. That is where the real money is

SWTORFanatic

(385 posts)
21. I am actually a math professor. Not sure what the progressive professor teachers but
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:03 AM
Jan 2013

as a mathematician, I say exactly what I mean.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
22. Not sure what he teaches either, but if he doesn't know the difference between "infer" and "imply,"
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:36 AM
Jan 2013

his students are screwed.

 

stultusporcos

(327 posts)
2. It will take the death of one of their own by guns before they even think about changing.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:07 AM
Jan 2013

It is just they way they are wired, profits over people.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
14. One of their own won't matter.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:55 PM
Jan 2013

It will take a whole room full of them slaughtered with an assault rifle.
And it would probably have to happen more than once to get them to reconsider their position.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
5. They draw the line with chalk ... to outline the bodies of the victims.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:05 PM
Jan 2013

I'm a gun owner, and I fucking DESPISE the NRA and virtually everything they stand for.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. AFAIK they don't oppose the 1934 NFA, but do oppose the Hughes amendment
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:34 PM
Jan 2013

So, roughly, they think in general civilians should not be able to go out and buy machine guns.

Now, that may be a tactical lack of opposition (as in they know there's no way to overturn it in actual politics), but I don't have a window into their souls.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
16. I have a feeling that if black and brown folk started stockpiling guns, the NRA and its minions
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 10:48 PM
Jan 2013

would start to think that some type of gun control is a good idea . . .

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
20. Doubt it. They're too far gone.
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:25 PM
Jan 2013

They have too much invested (literally) in the mythology of the gun.

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