2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPerhpas "kicking the can down the road" is not such a bad idea
Supposedly the Republicans are offering to keep the government open for two more weeks and then to vote again.
Like many, my initial reaction is - what good would it be? But thinking about it again, by then ObamaCare will be in place. Right now the White House is concerned that the shutdown will prevent many government workers, who are supposed to work on the program, from facilitating the implementation.
andtheBeast
(44 posts)Stargazer09
(2,132 posts)If the Senate or the President give in now, the debt ceiling debate will make this look minor.
They have to stand firm. Any sign of weakness will ruin our country.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)As has been said elsewhere, we don't negotiate with terrorists.
question everything
(47,479 posts)I thought that they would do nothing now - meaning ObamaCare is sailing - and then, in a few weeks, will revisit.
Which means, I thought, that by then Obamacare and the exchanges will be an established fact. But I think that they want to delay the implementation and I agree with everyone here -No.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)If the GOPers get any concessions at all they will keep pulling this kind of stunt. They need to understand that the ACA was passed by Congress, signed into law by the President, upheld by the Supreme Court. It is the law. They tried to repeal it 43 times and failed. The President campaigned on it and was handily re-elected. There is nothing to "negotiate."
So fuck them.
Never negotiate with terrorists.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Does that sound like a healthy economic environment?
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)slowly over 4 yrs...the exchanges are all in the various states. Its goingto take time to process anyway. No kicking the can thats what they want more time to f--k with it and maybe another 10 votes against it.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)I'll wait a week or two for the website glitches to work out
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)monmouth3
(3,871 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)wandy
(3,539 posts)Medicare coupons?
Privatize Social Security?
The Ryan budget?
Repeal the 17 th amendment?
How about a baby's arm holding an apple?
Government by republican threat must end somewhere. Why not NOW!
Mz Pip
(27,445 posts)Kick the can down the road until there is a Republican President.
So no. No more compromises, delays or other bullshit.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)it is time to have this fight right here - right now. the only thing a couple of weeks will do is put this fight on top of the debt limit expansion. That is bad for all of us. Put it off until next year and we hand the TeaPublicans an election year platform to run on.
The place is here, the time is now, and we are the people. Let our elected Democratic officials know you support them.
shraby
(21,946 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)DO NOT BACK DOWN.