GOP Suicide Bombers Strategy

[kairos12]

As it appears the Teabaggers will allow the country to default they are not playing poker, but chess:

1. Completely wreck the economy using Debt Ceiling as the Neutron Bomb which will kill everybody financially accept the one percent. Yes-it may hurt them but they will be insulated by their millions (billions), and insider information. Oh, and blame the guy in the White House--he's not reasonable you know.

2. Use the case before the Supreme this week to lift the number of candidates a person can contribute to and maybe even the limit on what a person can contribute to each candidate individually. Hi-ho Koch brothers. 2012 will be nothing by comparison.

3. Rev up the crazies so they begin the ground game early in 2014 to both get out the vote, and test out how their voter restrictions work by poll monitoring aggressively. Teabaggers will refine these restrictions once they see the results of the mid-term elections and be prepared for 2016. One of the reasons the Bagger states immediately implemented those restrictive laws was to clear the decks through the Supreme Court now so they will be locked in by 2016. Although right now these restrictions are mainly in red states they are the canaries in the coal mine. If these laws pass muster look for other states to follow suit if they have Rethug governors.

They are playing the long game. Oh, and those current dismal GOP poll numbers, gerrymandering of Rethug districts makes the current GOP poll numbers irrelevant.

[melody]

1. Yes, that's no doubt the thinking of the Republicans n/t

[HooptieWagon]

2. I disagree

If the teabaggers continue on their path to crash the economy, Wall St and the Chamber of Commerce will not be pleased. Corporate funding is not going to flow towards crazies. Teabag voters likely won't support moderate republicans and visa versa. And even republican incumbents aren't safe in gerrymandered districts without big $. Believe the polls. The GOP IS in trouble. They may be able to temporarily patch their fractured coalition, enough to barely hold on to the house. But long-term, the demographics aren't in their favor. They know it, but can't do anything about it.

[Mz Pip]

3. Chamber of Commerce is sick of it.

I need to find the article reporting that the C of C is saying it will support candidates who vote to end this mess.

Businesses can't be supporting this. It's a disaster for them the longer this drags on.

[HooptieWagon]

4. Yes.

Business used to contribute to Dems and pukes equally. Then Grover Norquist and others assembled the grand coalition of business, fundies, racists, and small-govt types....got them to agree to support each other's agenda in common. Business was the financial backer. Now the coalition is fracturing....the crazies are in charge and not supporting business. Logical to assume business will no longer give broad support to GOP. Scavangers will fight over the scraps. Demographics are against them. The only thing that will save them is a unifying leader, ala Reagan, who can reunite the coalition and also attract converts from minorities, women, and young people. There is no such personality at present, and if there was they'd be thrown under the bus by the crazies.

[kairos12]

5. Interesting Points

I recall the C of C supported the crazies and got the House turned over to the Baggers in 2010. The business community may have created a Frankenstein they can't control. The Astro turfing of the Baggers benefits the highest percent owners in the community, not the mom and pop shops or businesses. I believe the one per-centers will trade a short term economic disaster in the debt ceiling default if they think they can swing long-term politics their way--especially the White House. By controlling the electorate through voter restrictions the crazies can swing enough votes to win an election by the electoral college, even if they don't win the popular vote. If they can portray Obama as way out their lefty, who led the country to default, than a "moderate" Rethug will look centrist to the uninformed voter. Cruz will never get the nomination in 2016. Look for a "reasonable" guy like Portman. On second thought, the C of C will back anybody, even Cruz, if Hillary gets the nomination.

[HooptieWagon]

9. I think Hillary will get strong big business backing.

So much so as to be a concern to a lefty like myself. Middle and working classes already have lost much under so-called Dems.
Big question is will collapse of GOP into a regional party also create room for other parties, one perhaps to left of a corporatist Dem Party?

[AlinPA]

6. Agree. Now their primary goal is to get the default to happen. Once they crash the economy, they

can claim success, and blame the President. From what I've seen so far the republicans have no idea what the economists and banking people are talking about in the warnings. They are just too damned stupid.

[kairos12]

7. PA

I assume from your screen name that you are from the PA. That is a state I would have concern about if the contagion of voter restrictions spreads from Dixie. Am i reading the politics of that correctly? It seems to me that the guv there tried some restrictions in 2014 that didn't fly. Am I a right about this?

[AlinPA]

8. They were delayed for the last election but will go into effect in 2014. Basically the law makes it

hard to vote with strict ID requirements and forcing college students to vote in their home district. I don't have all the details to describe it further.

[blkmusclmachine]

10. There's some Truth there.

[Coyotl]

11. Enough hyperbole already